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Marxist/Leninist thought is all over the world today. That makes it unique. Its in governments, social, and economic areas of societies where it wasn’t before. It varies in different forms and to varying degrees as well. Its not all in the hardest forms we know such as communism. It exists as socialism, progressive, fascism, third way politics, Gramscism, etc. It tries to unify on one end while on others it invokes Sun Tzu's classic dictum of divide and conquer. This is the state of the current world. If that doesn't agree with you, well keep denying it. Its your choice, but one that comes with consequences. That is unfortunately a consequence many American people don’t understand as we can see in our society today. Sure they are waking up slowly, but its not how many battles you win or lose, its who wins the last one and time is growing short.

Mexico’s government has always been corrupt but it has also adopted a degree of Marxism in order to prevent any shift in that status quo(intellectuals and elites seem to be attracked by such thought). In fact at the very core of Marxism/Leninism is that it is a kleptocracy held to together by ‘scientific principles’ and as we have seen ‘scientific principles’ are everything to the movement and as an example life is cheap to them. It was a looser form for Mexico but harder for the Soviet Union and as we can see in China a varying degree of flexibility in what they call socialism with Chinese characteristics(Deng Xiaoping theory) in its current state. Yet far to many see a budding free China since there is economic freedom yet no political freedom. Cuba still exists. Venezuela(both Russia and China approve of), Brazil to some degree with the PT party in some control and a population that dislikes America, Argentina with a popularist who sides more with Castro and Chavez than others, Ecuador with China, Peru has a leftist, Evo Morales in Bolivia commands a great deal of power even though he holds no office, a member of Allende’s group is now president in Chile(also remember the incident with our President’s Secret service guy?), FARC in Colombia, various Caribbean countries are being buttered up by China, almost all of Africa is Marxist(in a thuggish sort of way) to one degree or another, Europe is socialist and completely eviscerated by it, Russia is returning to the old roots but under the guise of nationalism but with a structure left over from the Soviet Union, India has elected a government of socialists under Singh who’s top man in the parliament is a communist and the whole group seem to be very naive with respect to China kinda like your classical useful idiot to quote Lenin. Many of these governments reinforce one another in different ways, talk with a progressive and even out right Marxist dialectic tongue. They talk about class struggle, poverty that must be fixed by the U.S., good neighborliness if only the U.S. and others would just move more to the left and see it their way. La Razza(sp?) and other similar Mexican national groups are filled with Marxist and out right communist venom and most have been around in their modern form, surprise, since the days of the Soviet Union who no doubt supported such groups just like the hippie groups of the 60's because they hurt the U.S. Now they get their support through the Narc trade and other leftists that always seem to come in and support their cause. We have radical Islam which is the direct result of the old Soviet Union and top Islamic scholars living in France who saw Marxism as a compliment to Islam and away to fight the west via proxy. Not a surprise that Russia still supports many of those countries.

People were doing that sort of thing thousands of years before either of those guys came along.

Your right they where, however no one ever put it all together like those two did. We see the end results and they haven’t been good. To make matters worse this thought is flexible, if it wasn’t it would have died quickly and what I mentioned about wouldn’t be happening. Back then Marxist/Leninist thought did not exist. It does today and everywhere it goes it cooperates with other areas and groups that are seeking power and praying off of anything it can use to achieve it. To be fair we didn’t have communications and travel back then like we do know. Marxist/Leninist thought would have been impossible to do like it is now as a result. If it wasn’t those two characters(+ countless others helping refine the system) it would have been someone else as it is just human nature to scheme for power and control. And to date I have yet to see any example in history that can even come close to holding a candle to what this movement has achieved or more like been able to destroy. We in the West are always reacting while this movement is always acting.

I really do wish you guys would quit giving credit to the creepy commies.

I suggest learning a good chunk of 19th and 20th century history, I give credit where credit is do both for their ability to win and our ability to be so naive and snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Your characterization of ‘creepy commies’ takes away from debate and any meaningful understand of what we are dealing with. They have killed so many people that to ignore such a movement boarders on the insane. And yes each group of revolutionaries has its own power ambitions but in the end the country that has the most influence over the process will end up controlling them all like it is just one group. That is its very nature. It is simply human nature which is animated more by passions than it is by reason.