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To: Ben Ficklin
You advocate increasing the quota of H2B visas to 7-8 million?

I am one of those people that post on a number of threads about illegal aliens ... you know, the sort of person you derided earlier as being closeted racists and 'gun them down' sorts hiding behind a patina of respectability ...

I have said all along that if existing visa programs had been managed correctly to account for known labor needs, then we would not have an illegal alien situation in this country. I suspect that most anyone who has truly thought about the situation would feel the same. The government is talking about "immigration reform" and has ideas about passing more laws when the situation we are in is one where they have failed to manage and enforce existing law. The government has found a way, as is often the case, to grow and gain power from its own failures.

Now that we have the illegal alien problem (rampant illegality tolerated by employers, vast people/drug smuggling rings, document forgery and identity theft industries to support the illegals, etc.) simply increasing the existing H2.x plan now would amount to an amnesty. Amnesty will be a magnet for more illegals and more illegality.

The volunteers of the MMP are in a position where they can do a million things right, and get very little positive response from the attention they bring to the problem. But if one thing goes wrong, anything at all caused by anyone, there will be many, like you, who will broad brush anyone supportive of the MMP as being closet racists. They are in (practically) a no-win situation.

143 posted on 04/07/2005 8:42:23 AM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: spodefly
Your 'leaders' Slimpox and Gilfish said it is all just a dog and pony show so what are you worried about?

Anyone with both an objective and non-racist mind already knows what this is about.

148 posted on 04/07/2005 8:48:41 AM PDT by harrowup (Just naturally perfect and humble of course)
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To: spodefly
It all depends on what the meaning of the word amnesty is.

Funny thing, when Senator Kennedy uses the phrase "earned legaliztion", I know exactly what he is talking about.

Your use of semantics and rhetoric make you incomprehensible.

158 posted on 04/07/2005 8:58:15 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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