Cochise officials investigating 2 Minutemen

I think it's more important that they should investigate the 15? million illegal aliens in America than two Americans. Much ado about nothing.

How dare they hold a criminal against their will!

The Commies lost~!

The Commies lost~!

LOL, funny but that is an absurd statement with no bases in reality(so much for intellectual honesty). Most of our own universities and schools are Marxist, and they lost? Quite making me laugh. Denial is such a dangerous state of mind and such a useful tool to whomever chooses to use it as a weapon.

So, how many divisions do the Commies in the universities have?

Stalin asked a similar question about the Catholic Church as a way to mock it as you try to mock me, but many who believed in communism weren't as stupid to believe that those in the Church weren't dangerous to their beliefs. Quite in fact they where, why else did it persecute the Church, infiltrate it along with other religions? I didn't see any divisions there either yet it was a danger to them. So are you saying that the the Marxists in our educational system present no threat to our society while they indoctrinate our kids and continue to destroy our value systems that so many parents try to instill them with? You should know better than that, so nice try. Your agreements are shallow. By the way are you going to deal with the list of countries that are socialist or are out right Marxist that I outlined or is that to much for you to handle and one sentence retorts are all that is left to you?

Your understanding of how Marxism/Leninism got it's way in the world is inconsistent with the facts.

Even the Soviet Politburo knew that it had to hire and pay these guys like they were employees.

Ideology only goes so far you know.

Your understanding of how Marxism/Leninism got it's way in the world is inconsistent with the facts.

And what facts are those?

Even the Soviet Politburo knew that it had to hire and pay these guys like they were employees.

Maybe in the Soviet Union since many could see the fruits of their labor(no wonder why force and oppression where the main staples of the state but then again there were also incentives as well), but the professors at the universities in various countries? I don't think so. Many of these people had grand visions of Utopia or just people seeking power. Marxism/Leninism was the path to that Utopia or power for most of them. They support each other like they are a click.

Ideology only goes so far you know.

I don't view Marxism/Leninism as ideological. If it was it would never had gone very far. Violence is the rule in order to achieve it. At its very core is criminality. It is devoid of what we in the west would call reason and morality. It is something governed more by passions than anything else which makes the situation rather complex. It is basically a blue print for kleptocracy which I mentioned before. It looks for any opportunity and exploits it(ideology, stirring the peoples passions, and violence are its trademarks). It is a system of power unlike an other and a polar opposite to our Western foundation.

The USSR was paying salaries to Communist organizers all over the world, even in the US.

So are you saying they payed all of them? I don't think so. Not even close. The money would have been better spent in other areas. Plus you have to take bureaucratic inefficiency and theft which was a very big problem under this type of system. Not to mention there simply would not have been enough funding to do it all. Many of these guys received their money through the support of universities and others who where rather wealthy and believed in that stuff with in their respective countries(now how they made their wealth is a different story and up to some discretionary thinking). The Soviets mainly saved their money for bribery, blackmail, extortion, propaganda ops, terrorism which was very big, the hippies of the 60's and the general like, green movements to an extent, supporting other countries operations to one extent or another, their own military, intelligence, and of course espionage. Even if we take the Narc trade they set up in the late 50's early 60's it still wouldn't be enough. The fact of the matter is that many of these Marxist movements would have to seek funding else where, and as it turns out here in the U.S. the best source of it was to have it voted to them via the public treasury. It didn't even have to go to them directly. All it had to do was support some form of socialism in order to weaken and open new doors(let it spread like its own independent(as possible) cancer). Of course if you’re the USSR or another Marxist governments this possibility to bilk your enemy out of their own money and use it to further your own gains would simply have been far to tempting to pass up. And as we know they didn’t pass it up, then again we didn’t seem to mind either which was just stupid thinking.

We were even treated to a filmed report on a meeting of the USSR Politburo where Gorbachev had the multi-million dollar check for the CPUSA written out and signed.

It was a business ~ !

A nasty, deadly business, but a business just the same.

Anyone who has ever worked in a large multi-thousand person company knows more about how Communism works than any student or analyst of the subject. The only big difference is that you have fewer killings at work ~ they still happen though. Sometimes the Corporate Jet crashes.