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MANIFESTO OF THE WPPFF/WILD TURKEYS/COALITION OF THE SANE
Me. | 29MARCH05 | Long Cut

Posted on 03/29/2005 8:58:34 AM PST by Long Cut

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To: BerthaDee

"Engagement"? This thread is a plea for disengagement!

"Civility?"

You mean like the post #9, which told me, quote, "go f*ck yourself"?

Is that the civility that you're talking about?

Evidence? Like the mountains of documentation pointing to foul play and judicial corruption? The evidence that a woman is being starved to death in the United States of America by order of the government? The Death-to-Terri crowd has been dogmatically ignoring evidence throughout this debate.

Reason? As in religiously adhering to the judgement of the "rule of law" even when it is eminently provable that not only was the law not followed in this case, but rather made up by the judge entirely based on his own discretion?

Logic? As in the logic that says starving someone to death is not the same as murdering them?


Clean your own house, first, and then maybe I'll take those arguments seriously.


81 posted on 03/29/2005 9:29:33 AM PST by thoughtomator (Order "Judges Gone Wild!" Only $19.95 have your credit card handy!)
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To: Long Cut
Some people are just obsessed with that Nazi stuff.

I understand.

Will this Nazi cr@p never go away?

82 posted on 03/29/2005 9:29:45 AM PST by the Deejay ( I'LL RESPECT YOUR OPINION....IF YOU'LL RESPECT MINE.....)
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To: Long Cut

Good idea here. Thanks, 'Cut. : )


83 posted on 03/29/2005 9:29:48 AM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (Pro-Terri - NOT anti-Bush.)
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To: Long Cut; Howlin
Thanks for the secret message ping howlin.

Escapee, # 298245 is slowly and stealthily working his way to the bridge, back to WPPFF.

84 posted on 03/29/2005 9:30:02 AM PST by G.Mason (If you get upset when I ignore you, my plan is working)
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To: Long Cut

This is an excellent, official time line of events, including links to other court decisions:
http://www.miami.edu/ethics2/schiavo/timeline.htm

This is the Wolfson Report in HTML format. He was one of four of Terri's guardian ad litems and both sides trusted him and liked him. It gives the most complete history regarding this matter, and I skipped right past the first few paragraphs of legalese to the history and read from there.

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/1370047/posts?page=1264#1264


85 posted on 03/29/2005 9:30:22 AM PST by Peach (I'm in the WPPFF.)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

I will continue to speak the truth that they are putting their stamp of approval on murder, and let them battle it out with their own consciences, if they have any.


86 posted on 03/29/2005 9:30:30 AM PST by thoughtomator (Order "Judges Gone Wild!" Only $19.95 have your credit card handy!)
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To: annyokie

I've got a cooler full.


87 posted on 03/29/2005 9:30:40 AM PST by Gabz (Wanna join my tag team?)
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To: thoughtomator
"It's an exhortation to be silent and go along with the program regardless how morally reprehensible it might be. On that I find very close parallels to the 'Good Germans' who went along with the program, regardless of how morally reprehensible it was. The fact that we are talking about starving a disabled person to death - a prime feature of the German euthanasia policies - makes it more than appropriate."

So you didn't read the thread.

"[W]e are united in our wish that reason and sanity be respected in the discussion, as well as the rights of all parties involved or participating. We wish to discuss this as adults and intellectuals, as conservatives and as FRiends, not as children screaming past each other on some playground of hysteria. We wish for facts and evidence to be provided, discussed reasonably, and considered fairly."

Personally, I find rationale discourse to be more informative than slogan-shouting. Perhaps you find the latter more informative, but I really can't imagine what information you are deriving.

88 posted on 03/29/2005 9:30:40 AM PST by atlaw
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To: Howlin; Long Cut

A breath of fresh air blows through.

So many of us truly feel sorrow for the Schindlers. I think these people have been used and exploited beyond words. To assume that because lots of good and respectful Republicans don't want to impeach Jeb (or his brother) makes us murderers at heart is to misunderstand our views, utterly.

I think this case has been badly handled by the lawyers for the Schindlers- with more competent advice this would have played out differently. That's a simple observation- not a condemnation of the pro-life movement.

The very minute I read the Nazi refrain begin, I don't even read the rest of the post, article or editorial. Playing that game will lose more supporters- that comparison cannot be taken seriously and no one will be persuaded to reconsider their views by comparing them to a member of the Third Reich.


89 posted on 03/29/2005 9:30:47 AM PST by SE Mom (Debate, not hate.)
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90 posted on 03/29/2005 9:31:04 AM PST by Long Cut (WPPFF Member.)
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To: cyncooper

Some people read things through very selective lenses.


91 posted on 03/29/2005 9:31:24 AM PST by unbalanced but fair
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To: mercy
I would not treat a dog so. Terri deserves to go home. You are not helping her. You are torturing her. As Christ as my witness I believe this is the right course.

Bravo!

U R right.

92 posted on 03/29/2005 9:32:07 AM PST by the Deejay ( I'LL RESPECT YOUR OPINION....IF YOU'LL RESPECT MINE.....)
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To: BerthaDee

Oh great, now there's censorship, too. "The Good Germans" is a perfectly accurate description, and getting truer all the time.


93 posted on 03/29/2005 9:32:18 AM PST by thoughtomator (Order "Judges Gone Wild!" Only $19.95 have your credit card handy!)
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To: Gabz

I knew I could count on you! Want a pretzel?


94 posted on 03/29/2005 9:32:21 AM PST by annyokie (Laissez les bons temps rouler !)
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To: Peach

I'm here too. Found you here all by myself! Going to check my pings now. Rush is doing his usual thing. My only other option out here is Dennis Preager, or c-span. I'm stuck out here in our 'smoking lounge' until our cleaning lady is done. Going to go check on things on the boards.


95 posted on 03/29/2005 9:32:45 AM PST by meema
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To: All; RGSpincich

Thanks to freeper RGSpincich for this find:

One of the nurses who has presented herself fraudulently:

Respectfully, and with great admiration.
Cheryl Ford RN
Fight4Terri@aol.com
There is no Registered Nurse in Florida named Cheryl Ford.

License lookup


96 posted on 03/29/2005 9:32:46 AM PST by Peach (I'm in the WPPFF.)
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To: thoughtomator
You mean like the post #9, which told me, quote, "go f*ck yourself"?

And which was immediately pulled at my request.

You wanted a fight; you almost got one; and now you're whining.

97 posted on 03/29/2005 9:33:00 AM PST by Poohbah (If it's called "collateral damage," how come I can't use it to secure a loan?)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

I think anybody who claims to need a form of "witness protection" here should just go start their own site, and leave all of us who they claim are insane back here on FR.

Just another insane supporter of the right to life.


98 posted on 03/29/2005 9:33:10 AM PST by Kryptonite
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To: annyokie

99 posted on 03/29/2005 9:33:27 AM PST by Drango (My tag line is takin' a nap. Please come back later.)
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To: Long Cut
As a nation we are accepting that the law may unequivocally state that a mother may not put water on the lips of her dying daughter.

If analogies, metaphors, comparisons and other characterisations about that phenomena are troubling for you I will be sensitive to your pain and refrain from making any.

I will leave it to you to frame an appropriate Politically Correct characterisation for what it is to be a nation that finds that to be a legal, correct and unchangeable decision.

100 posted on 03/29/2005 9:33:52 AM PST by TigersEye
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