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MANIFESTO OF THE WPPFF/WILD TURKEYS/COALITION OF THE SANE
Me. | 29MARCH05 | Long Cut

Posted on 03/29/2005 8:58:34 AM PST by Long Cut

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To: thoughtomator
Fair in concept, easily abused in practice.

Then leave us alone. Why stay on this thread, unless you want to start trouble?
1,161 posted on 03/29/2005 5:40:56 PM PST by teenyelliott (Soylent green is made of liberals...)
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To: Peach

Thanks. I'll look it up.


1,162 posted on 03/29/2005 5:41:34 PM PST by .38sw
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To: Long Cut
THE BODY SNATCHERS

We reject all accusations of Naziism, "death cultism", or other slander as methods of debate."!!:)



Two Decades to an American Culture of Death

1,163 posted on 03/29/2005 5:41:54 PM PST by restornu (Do ye suppose that mercy can rob justice? I say nay; not one whit. If so, God would cease to be God.)
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To: Long Cut

I WAS NOT AWARE MY HUSBAND DIED IN Beth Israel Medical Center, New York, NY

The National Consensus Project (NCP), comprised of
· American Academy of Hospice and Palliative Medicine (AAHPM)
· Center to Advance Palliative Care (CAPC)
· Hospice and Palliative Nurses Association (HPNA)
· Last Acts Partnership
· National Hospice and Palliative Care Organization (NHPCO),
announces in a press release the publication of Clinical Practice Guidelines for Quality Palliative Care. These guidelines are to be the standard for palliative care services across the country. The guidelines acknowledge the support of
· Beth Israel Medical Center, New York, NY
· City of Hope National Medical Center
· Harvard Medical School Center for Palliative Care
· The Hospice of the Florida Suncoast
· Massachusetts General Hospital
· Hertzberg Palliative Care Institute, Mount Sinai School of Medicine
· National Hospice Work Group
· National Institutes of Health, Warren Grant Magnuson Clinical Center
· New York University, Steinhardt School of Education, Division of Nursing
· Palliative Care Center and Hospice of the North Shore
· San Diego Hospice and Palliative Care
· University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine
· Vitas HealthCare
In an effort to define palliative care, the manual provides a diagram similar to the following diagram. The guidelines position palliative care opposite life-saving therapy, as shown here:


1,164 posted on 03/29/2005 5:42:09 PM PST by restornu (Do ye suppose that mercy can rob justice? I say nay; not one whit. If so, God would cease to be God.)
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To: NautiNurse
Dr. Ron Cranford, a neurologist at the University of Minnesota, assessed Schiavo's brain function in 2001 as part of a court-ordered assessment. He was quoted in Florida Today as saying "[Schiavo] has no electrical activity in her cerebral cortex on an EEG (electroencephalogram), and a CT (computerized tomography) scan showed massive atrophy in that region."

Source.

Three Florida neurologists viewed 12 of Schiavo's CT scans on March 22 [10] (http://www.miami.edu/ethics/schiavo/CT%20scan.png). After viewing the scans, Dr. Leon Prockop (a professor and former chairman of the neurology department at the University of South Florida's College of Medicine) was quoted by the Sun-Sentinel as saying that Schiavo's scan exhibits the "most severe brain damage as I've ever seen." Dr. Walter Bradley, the chairman of neurology at the University of Miami's Miller School of Medicine, said that he "doubts there's any activity going on in the higher levels of her brain."

Source.

In 2002, a trial was held to determine whether or not any new therapy treatments would help Schiavo restore any cognitive function. A new computed axial tomography scan (CAT scan) was done, and showed severe cerebral atrophy. An EEG showed no measurable brain activity.

1,165 posted on 03/29/2005 5:42:35 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks (Sure you can trust the government... just ask an Indian...)
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To: Doohickey

It hasn't appeared that way, with so little outrage against the fact that she is being starved to death. 12 days of starvation now and this person who supposedly wants to die is still somehow alive.

However, I've gotten a complete explanation of why starving her like a Jew in Bergen-Belsen is completely above-board and legal.


1,166 posted on 03/29/2005 5:42:59 PM PST by thoughtomator (Order "Judges Gone Wild!" Only $19.95 have your credit card handy!)
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To: thoughtomator

No. He didn't. Another urban legend.

Terri's money is controlled by the court. Michael's money, $300,000 is all he has had access to. Period.

The Wolfson Report mentions how the money is controlled by the court; MS has NO access to it.

The WOlfson Report also mentions that MS volunteered to relinquish his financial interest in Terri's estate in the event she dies. The Schindlers declined to take him up on that offer. If they had taken him up on the offer, there would have been no motive that they could play to the media and naive.

You really should read the Wolfson report. It's in HTML format now.


1,167 posted on 03/29/2005 5:43:41 PM PST by Peach (I'm in the WPPFF.)
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To: teenyelliott

I'm looking for answers to some of the very disturbing questions that are still out there. See post 843.


1,168 posted on 03/29/2005 5:43:41 PM PST by thoughtomator (Order "Judges Gone Wild!" Only $19.95 have your credit card handy!)
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To: Peach

"Yes. The SChindler's doctor, Dr. H., advertises in the National Inquirer. Insurance companies won't work with him. He claims to have a Nobel prize nomination but couldn't produce it for the court.

He claimed he could treat patients like Terri but when asked for the information on ONE single patient he has treated like Terri, he couldn't do it. "

I heard Dr. H., when asked about patients like Terri that he's treated, started talking about a patient with cerebral palsey and all of the wonderful things he was able to do for her. Now, excuse me, but cerebral palsey is not the same problem that Terri has. Talking about dancing around the question. The host on that particular show didn't challenge him, either.


1,169 posted on 03/29/2005 5:44:55 PM PST by .38sw
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To: Peach

Oh, ok, thanks. The "other side" of FR.


1,170 posted on 03/29/2005 5:45:13 PM PST by Jrabbit
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To: thoughtomator
"However, I've gotten a complete explanation of why starving her like a Jew in Bergen-Belsen is completely above-board and legal."

If a FReeper finds this an acceptable meansd to discuss this and other issues, they are welcome to join in and participate. Those who find pleasure in attacks, flame-baiting, slander, stalking, and personal atacks will be ignored, and their egos will go unfed.

Thank you for bumping the thread.

1,171 posted on 03/29/2005 5:46:20 PM PST by Drango (My tag line is takin' a nap. Please come back later.)
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To: Chad Fairbanks

Thank you for the EEG reference. :o)


1,172 posted on 03/29/2005 5:46:37 PM PST by NautiNurse ("I'd rather see someone go to work for a Republican campaign than sit on their butt."--Howard Dean)
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To: NautiNurse

You are, of course, most welcome. :)


1,173 posted on 03/29/2005 5:47:05 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks (Sure you can trust the government... just ask an Indian...)
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To: Admin Moderator

I'm sorry all, I will not be able to continue this thread. Orange.


1,174 posted on 03/29/2005 5:47:11 PM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: thoughtomator
I request a different mod for this thread. You've chosen a side.

I think you mean he/she hasn't chosen your side.

It shows.

1,175 posted on 03/29/2005 5:47:14 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: thoughtomator

Don't you think that is a "tad-bit" obnoxious, to challenge the moderator of the thread?


1,176 posted on 03/29/2005 5:47:30 PM PST by Pan_Yans Wife (" It is not true that life is one damn thing after another-it's one damn thing over and over." ESV)
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To: thoughtomator
From your homepage; I will occasionally post something intelligent, insightful, and/or witty. Please humor me the other 99% of the time.

Again, I say, no one is forcing you to be on this thread.
1,177 posted on 03/29/2005 5:47:33 PM PST by teenyelliott (Soylent green is made of liberals...)
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To: Dog Gone

I don't think it's going to matter. See the Admin's post above yours.


1,178 posted on 03/29/2005 5:48:21 PM PST by .38sw
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To: Admin Moderator

What? OMG... Please don't tell me.. no... not... not... not... Banana! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!


1,179 posted on 03/29/2005 5:48:51 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks (Sure you can trust the government... just ask an Indian...)
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To: Jrabbit

The side that calls fellow FReepers Nazi's, the Death Squad, and sends graphics of the Grim Reaper.


1,180 posted on 03/29/2005 5:48:58 PM PST by teenyelliott (Soylent green is made of liberals...)
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