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Why Terri Schiavo will die tomorrow, the day Jesus Christ died (stop the satanic ritual murder!!!)
self, you ^ | March 24

Posted on 03/24/2005 2:10:42 PM PST by Truth666

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To: Kryptonite

Goodnight everyone. I'm signing off of 'Terri Republic' for the evening.


2,141 posted on 03/25/2005 10:40:27 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: Indy Pendance


LOL.
Nite Indy.


2,142 posted on 03/25/2005 10:43:57 PM PST by onyx (Robert Frost "Good fences make good neighbors." Build the fence, Mr. President and Congress.)
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To: onyx

History will record the Republicans as trying their best to act, and the Democrats as being disinterested or reactionary, but more like winners in this profound human tragedy playing out before the eyes of the world.

Being a winner in this tragedy can only make one a loser, longer term. While I'm disturbed at the Republicans' ineffectiveness, on balance it should be a plus for most of them.

What energy is in there in criticizing politicians for trying to stop this tragedy from playing out the way it has? None, in my opinion.


2,143 posted on 03/25/2005 10:46:55 PM PST by Kryptonite
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To: Republic
"Which Gal are you referring to? There were three.

One a committed euthanasist, a second, a huge buddy of Greer's, and a BIG campaign contributor, and the third, an apparent wild hair, who actually stated that Terri was being mistreated and was in need of therapy, and could probably improve if offered the chance...he, of course, WAS FIRED BY JUDGE GREER."



That is a load of BS.

I am going to breathe here and try very hard to not flame you. I've seen you post a lot of tripe before, but this might take the cake.

You can mislead the ignorant, but I know better. And I wont let you do that in this thread. I think it is despicable that it is running rampant in the rest of the forum.

Before I waste my time ripping that apart, I want you to try to support each of those assertions. This should be fun and instructive.
2,144 posted on 03/25/2005 10:49:16 PM PST by Trinity_Tx (Since Oct 9, 2000..new nick) *From Buckhead to this in 6 months. That's one helluva FReefall*)
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To: Peach; Republic

You are exactly right. that was Pearse.

I am challenging "republic" to support his false assertions in his reply to you. I think it is important to show just how these offensive lies get spread.


2,145 posted on 03/25/2005 10:53:38 PM PST by Trinity_Tx (Since Oct 9, 2000..new nick) *From Buckhead to this in 6 months. That's one helluva FReefall*)
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To: Kryptonite

Democrats will use this (clips of DeLay and others)
to scare the bejeeezus out of John Q Public, regarding
Bush nominees. They're all going to be painted as
coming from the radical religious right.

We shall overcome, but it'll be a battle.


2,146 posted on 03/25/2005 10:55:58 PM PST by onyx (Robert Frost "Good fences make good neighbors." Build the fence, Mr. President and Congress.)
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To: Trinity_Tx
You can go to TheEmpireJournal.com and find it all. I only report what I have read, and so do you, I assume.
2,147 posted on 03/25/2005 10:57:57 PM PST by Republic (My life support today -KNOWING OUR FATHER ANSWERS PRAYERS!)
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To: Torie

Well Torie, it's Pat Anderson.

I don't think Gibbs is the brightest bulb, either, and likely made a major foul-up this week at least. But Pat Anderson, the previous atty, was absolutely horrendous, IMO.

The choices she made, from the horrendous Hammesfahr, and the kindly but out of his league Maxwell, to this propaganda campaign to suggest foul play in Terri's collapse, Pat Anderson could be responsible for not getting the real truth out if Terri indeed is not PVS.


2,148 posted on 03/25/2005 10:58:46 PM PST by Trinity_Tx (Since Oct 9, 2000..new nick) *From Buckhead to this in 6 months. That's one helluva FReefall*)
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To: Truth666
Yesterday, Good Friday 2005

the parents were tortured one last time with the sight of her dehydrated daughter, Theresa Maria Schindler

Listen to agonizing America

Audio of Terri Schiavo's father talking to his brain-damaged daughter and her reaction; recorded in 2004;

http://loungedaddy.blogs.com/20-MAR-05__EF05C38_0003AAE3-2D4F-123E-84811014AC14F856.mp3

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It's over - buried March 25, 2005



2,149 posted on 03/25/2005 10:59:04 PM PST by Truth666 (THE PASSION OF THERESA MARIA SCHINDLER ON HOLY FRIDAY 2005)
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To: Trinity_Tx; onyx; All

Good night, everybody. I've got company coming tomorrow and either have to clean or move.


2,150 posted on 03/25/2005 11:03:09 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin

LOL.
I opted to move,
but it's been delayed...lol.
Nite Howlin.


2,151 posted on 03/25/2005 11:04:04 PM PST by onyx (Robert Frost "Good fences make good neighbors." Build the fence, Mr. President and Congress.)
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To: Republic
The court appointed Richard Pearse, Esq., to serve as Guardian Ad Litem to review the request for withdrawal, a standard procedure.

Mr. Pearse's report, submitted to the court on 20 December 1998 contains what appear to be objective and challenging findings. His review of the clinical record confirmed that Theresa's condition was that of a diagnosed persistent vegetative state with no chance of improvement. Mr. Pearse's investigation concluded that the statements of Mrs. Schindler, Theresa's mother, indicated that Theresa displayed special responses, mostly to her, but that these were not observed or documented.

Mr. Pearse documents the evolving disaffections between the Schindlers and Michael Schiavo. He concludes that Michael Schiavo's testimony regarding the basis for his decision to withdraw life support – a conversation he had with his wife, Theresa, was not clear and convincing, and that potential conflicts of interest regarding the disposition of residual funds in Theresa's trust account following her death affected Michael and the Schindlers – but he placed greater emphasis on the impact it might have had on Michael's decision to discontinue artificial life support. At the time of Mr. Pearse's report, more than $700,000 remained in the guardianship estate.

Mr. Pearse concludes that Michael's hearsay testimony about Theresa's intent is "necessarily adversely affected by the obvious financial benefit to him of being the sole heir at law…" and "…by the chronology of this case…", specifically referencing Michael's change in position relative to maintaining Theresa following the malpractice award.

In response to Mr. Pearse's report, Michael Schiavo filed a Suggestion of Bias against Mr. Pearse. This document notes that Mr. Pearse failed to mention in his report that Michael Schiavo had earlier, formally offered to divest himself entirely of his financial interest in the guardianship estate. The criticism continues to note that Mr. Pearse's concern about abuse of inheritance potential was directly solely at Michael, not at the Schindlers in the event they might become the heirs and also choose to terminate artificial life support. Further, significant chronological deficits and factual errors are noted, detracting from and prejudicing the objective credibility of Mr. Pearse's report.

The Suggestion of Bias challenges premises and findings of Mr. Pearse, establishing a well pleaded case for bias.

I didn't see in there where he said she was mistreated and could improve.....do you think it might be someone else to whom you are referring?

2,152 posted on 03/25/2005 11:05:28 PM PST by Rheo
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To: Republic

No.

You got caught making utterly false claims. I'm asking you to back them up, or admit they are as baseless as half the other lies and nonsense being spewed throughout this site.

A general hand wave to a web site chock full of dozens, if not hundreds, of pages of tinfiol propaganda is not supporting your claim. Especially since I don't think even they are stupid enough to make all those claims.

I will give you direct links to documents that prove them wrong.


2,153 posted on 03/25/2005 11:09:01 PM PST by Trinity_Tx (Since Oct 9, 2000..new nick) *From Buckhead to this in 6 months. That's one helluva FReefall*)
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To: onyx

Let them paint. It's another losing strategy of offering no new ideas and only ripping the status quo. ABB failed, as will this tack.

Besides, the Republicans can always paint the Democrats as championing Michael Schiavo's cause. That is most certainly a more devastating attack, and one which appears to me as necessary given the events we've witnessed in this tragedy.


2,154 posted on 03/25/2005 11:10:03 PM PST by Kryptonite
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To: Kryptonite; Trinity_Tx; Peach

Too tired.
I'll reply in the morning.
Need to sleep.
Nite y'all.


2,155 posted on 03/25/2005 11:12:58 PM PST by onyx (Robert Frost "Good fences make good neighbors." Build the fence, Mr. President and Congress.)
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To: Howlin

Nite. I took my meds 20 minutes ago and am fading fast here myself.


2,156 posted on 03/25/2005 11:13:01 PM PST by Trinity_Tx (Since Oct 9, 2000..new nick) *From Buckhead to this in 6 months. That's one helluva FReefall*)
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To: onyx

'Nite, you. : )


2,157 posted on 03/25/2005 11:13:41 PM PST by Trinity_Tx (Since Oct 9, 2000..new nick) *From Buckhead to this in 6 months. That's one helluva FReefall*)
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To: Trinity_Tx


GOOD tagline.
Shame that it's true.

Nite TT.


2,158 posted on 03/25/2005 11:14:10 PM PST by onyx (Robert Frost "Good fences make good neighbors." Build the fence, Mr. President and Congress.)
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To: Rheo
In recent months, individuals have come forward indicating that there are therapies and treatments and interventions that can literally re-grow Theresa's functional, cerebral cortex brain tissue, restoring part or all of her functions. There is no scientifically valid, medically recognized evidence that this has been done or is possible, even in rats, according to the president of the American Society for Neuro-Transplantation. It is imaginable that some day such things may be possible; but holding out such promises to families of severely brain injured persons today may be a profound disservice.

Since ya'll are going to bed...I'll just cut and paste to myself....nite!

2,159 posted on 03/25/2005 11:20:30 PM PST by Rheo
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To: Rheo
Platform of Understanding from the Wolfson Report.....this agreement between the two parties broke down at the 11th hour and was not agreed to.

In order to create a common ground among the parties, essential to feasibly and valuably addressing the best interests of Theresa, the parties agree in principle as follows:

1. The GAL is accepted and trusted by all the parties as having clean hands and acting exclusively in the interests of Theresa.

2. The GAL's judgment regarding the best interests of Theresa and his ability to objectively, fairly, scientifically and caringly represent these interests is accepted by all the parties.

3. The GAL will select competent, neutral, clinical specialists to make a formal determination about the feasibility and value of swallowing tests and therapy for Theresa. The specialists' identities will be kept confidential from the public. The specialists' determination will have value to the process of gaining a common and agreed-upon understanding among the parties.

4. The GAL will select competent, neutral, clinical specialists to conduct appropriate examinations and tests to make a formal determination about neurological capacity and prognosis. The specialists' identities will be kept confidential from the public. The specialists' determination will have value to the process of gaining a common and agreed-upon understanding among the parties.

5. The GAL should be permitted and authorized to move forward with a plan, designed to gain the data regarding swallowing tests/therapy and neurological capacity in a manner consistent with items 3 and 4, above, with and through the advice and input of the parties' counsels and the Court.

6. The parties agree in principle to establish in advance, parameters for their respective actions based upon the outcomes of the examinations and tests. These parameters will be developed, through the auspices of the GAL, within 10 days of the presentation of this report to the Governor, and said parameters, agreed upon by the parties, shall serve as the predicate for proceeding with the initiation of the testing and examination.

7. The successful recruitment and deployment of the clinical experts to perform the exams will be under the direction, supervision and discretion of the GAL, with advisement proffered to the attorneys for each of the parties.

8. Barring unforeseen events, the recruitment, deployment and reporting to the parties on the results of the tests will occur within 45 days of the specification referenced above in item 6 regarding the parameters.

9. In fairness, and because of the significant public policy issues involved, the costs associated with the recruitment and deployment of experts to perform the examinations and tests should be born by the State.

10. The parties respectfully request that the Court accept and honor this understanding in the interests of justice and with the expectation of achieving a feasible and valuable solution in a complex and challenging matter that has acquired a high level of public policy significance.

In the event the GAL is unable to achieve agreement on a matter, the issue will either be respectfully set aside, with the acquiescence of the parties, or, if it is deemed to be of such a critical and vital nature, it may serve to stall or terminate the good faith process. At that juncture, the GAL will report on the failure of the process and the reason for the impasse.

2,160 posted on 03/25/2005 11:31:22 PM PST by Rheo
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