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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
That is exactly why demonstrating (not merely suggesting) the process(es) which supposedly cause evolution would be much more persuasive than picking and choosing among common skeletal characteristics.

Why bother? No matter what we show you, you can always cop-out by saying "It could have been designed that way!"

If I had a good design for something, I would probably use it over and over again.

Which is why mammalian eyes differ so wildly from arguably far superior avian eyes, and why bird wings are so incredibly different than bat wings. And why the designer chose to use the same broken Vitamin C synthesis gene in all primates, including humans. The designer was just recycling a defect.

Many processes have been suggested and discarded over the years from Darwin to Gould. None have been scientifically tested and validated.

Please. A number of proposed mechanisms have been observed. You just dismiss them because you don't want to accept the implications.
145 posted on 02/16/2005 6:25:33 PM PST by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: Dimensio

1) If evolution is part of the "design" then so be it. I have no philosophical problem with it. Most "scientists", on the other hand, must believe it is all natural processes in order to continue subjecting it to study. It is fine with me if that's what keeps you going. The only problem I have is when you state with certainty that everything is subject to natural laws. And in order to prove that you overstate what you know and present as fact things that only conjecture, best guesses or subject to interpretation.

2) The religious text of your choice says nothing in this world is perfect.

3) I'm sorry, but they haven't. Nothing I've seen is very impressive. But many scientists seem too ready to jump to conclusions because they are the ones who fear there might be limits.

Just count what no scientist on this thread could answer or tried to sidestep or semanticize: hybridization that does not produce hybrids, a "new species" that is not new, why it is valid to call a group of fossils "whales" because the ears and teeth are similar when the bodies are drastically different, why "When a development is really independent it shows in the DNA" does not assume the conclusion it is supposed to prove, why creation implies there should not be a "defective" GLO gene ("Defective" is an opinion, not a physical property. You are aware that some genes have multiple purposes? If you look for a gene which correlates with one property, that does not mean it does not also correlate with another property you were not looking for. And even if not, you still have to assume the conclusion absent observation of the actual or analogous occurence. The logic is rather simple.)

No, it is you who simply scoff and dismiss and move on, refusing to consider other views.


146 posted on 02/17/2005 12:01:31 AM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth...)
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