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To: Right Winged American
Uh, isn't freedom pretty much the underpinning of the American "Culture"? I live in Miami, all of my neighbors are of Central Americans or Cubans, and when they say "My country, I know what they mean in context ...

Maybe. I have asked for clarification from those I hear say it and they all say their country is "Peru" or "Columbia" or "mexico" not the United States.

Yes, freedom is the underpinning of our culture and our forefathers fought for it. It wasn't handed to them. "They" should go back and fight for it in their own country.

Freedom and Economic Opportunity pretty much go hand in hand. Can you name me a Country with economic opportunity that is not free?

True. So you admit they are not here for the freedom but rather the economic advantage. If the opposite were true they would be willing to fight for it in their home country. It would be far more honorable for them to fight for and win freedom in their own country raising the lives of their fellow countrymen rather than abandoning them by leaving for the U.S.

Sorry, you misunderstood; I was referring to the ... I suppose they were a Movement in pre-WWII America. Run a google on the "America Firsters" and you'll see what I meant.

I looked it up and don't see what you were referring to. Perhaps you could post a more clear explanation?

700 posted on 02/11/2005 2:16:17 PM PST by raybbr
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To: raybbr
Yes, freedom is the underpinning of our culture and our forefathers fought for it. It wasn't handed to them. "They" should go back and fight for it in their own country.

<Freedom and Economic Opportunity pretty much go hand in hand. Can you name me a Country with economic opportunity that is not free?>

True. So you admit they are not here for the freedom but rather the economic advantage. If the opposite were true they would be willing to fight for it in their home country. It would be far more honorable for them to fight for and win freedom in their own country raising the lives of their fellow countrymen rather than abandoning them by leaving for the U.S.

No, I meant the opposite; your point about them fighting for their own freedoms in their own countries is well taken, though. A large number of Cubans here tried to enlist our aid in doing exactly that, and Kennedy cut them off at the knees. One could see where they, and more recently the Shia and Kurds in Iraq may have some questions about that in their minds, too. The difference here is President Bush is not Kennedy, Clinton, or even Bush '41. Hence my willingness to see what he comes up with before I decide.

Sorry, you misunderstood; I was referring to the ... I suppose they were a Movement in pre-WWII America. Run a google on the "America Firsters" and you'll see what I meant.

I looked it up and don't see what you were referring to. Perhaps you could post a more clear explanation?

Nuts ... I just tried to spawn a new window to check and IE won't co-operate. Perhaps it's "America First Party" or "America First Movement" I'll check later and Feepmail you on it. Sorry.

793 posted on 02/11/2005 2:51:10 PM PST by Right Winged American (We don't need a fountain of youth, what we need is a fountain of SMART!)
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To: raybbr

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America_First

The America First movement was an isolationalist group that opposed United States involvement in World War II. Many prominent Americans were members, including aviator Charles Lindbergh. At its peak, America First had 800,000 members.


1,770 posted on 02/12/2005 4:07:01 AM PST by Once-Ler (Beating a dead horse for NeoCon America)
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