[rodguy911]

I hate to belabor the point but here is the problem.
After 911 everyyyyyything changed!

There is a huge difference between several millions illegals coming here and literally having their way illegally. It's bad, It cost a fortune but there are much worse things going on in the world.

But since 911 we have good info that some terrorists, who knows how many, have united with central American gangs, and have now crossed the Mexican border.

This IMHO changes everything. We can ill afford dirty bombs, more 911's, poisonous gas in the subways or the deliberate poisioning of our water supply because there are holes in the border or not enough agents.

We need to at least "try" and secure our borders. There is not a country in the world that does not do the same.

But today it is negligence if we don't.we are not protecting our loved ones if we don't.

[bayourod]

"But since 911 we have good info that some terrorists, who knows how many, have united with central American gangs, and have now crossed the Mexican border. "

I haven't seen any such evidence.

I'm not going to waste time arguing with you. Last figures I saw showed that we had an average of one guard for each five miles of the Canadian border and seven guards for each mile of the Mexican border. Still, only an estimated one third of the southern border jumpers get caught. Doubling or quadrupling the guard isn't going to stop the border jumpers.

Instead of being idiots and trying to do something impossible such as seal the border, it is smarter and more effective to concentrate our resources on the transit points leading to the border, starting in the middle east and Asia. No knowledgeable person believes that a fence would do any good at all on the vast desolate mountains and deserts of the border. Even the short Tijuana border gets breached daily by numerous laborers and it has fences, patrol roads, motion sensors, flood lights, planes, helicopters, atvs, uavs, and horseback patrols.

And if we could magically seal the Mexican border, laborers would just come by the gulf coast. Can we seal the coast?