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To: bayourod
RE: your #2034

Those are good points but if you really want to see where it's at google, "no-match" letters

(Ya see, we really, really do know who they are and who hires them. The laws are not broken.)

It's not only business it's the immigrant "rights" industry that goes ballistic. Of course that industry includes lawyers, lawyers, lots of lawyers. Courts courts courts. Protests, protests, protests. Lobbying, lobbying, lobbying, Money, money, money.

As much as I am against shiny new laws for business, government, et al. to ignore I'd support the President if he would be up front.

To wit, no matter what the President proposes and Congress disposes the major howling will be from the immigrant rights "industry."

Prove to us, Mr. President, that you can thwart their efforts to circumvent and outright violate the new laws with impunity. No more more of the same from them, business, and government!

2,074 posted on 02/12/2005 11:22:44 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (MSM Fraudcasters are skid marks on journalism's clean shorts.)
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To: All
Opponents of shiny new laws to ignore may think we'll win and the current laws will start to be enforced and the violations of our sovereign American heritage as a Nation of Laws will be stopped but . .

Oh we'll be told it's good. "Just look at this shiny new state-of-the-art law that goes 'Ping!'"

Government, business, immigrant "rights" industry, multiculturalists, academia, MSM, globalists' migrant labor, Democrats, Republicans, the U.N., foreign governments -- who doesn't support "willing worker-employer"? Only the bigoted xenophobic neo-Davidians holed up in their compounds oppose it. That's who. Hee, hee. Uh-oh!

It's a done deal. The fat Elvis has sung and left the building. It's about econmics and "social justice".

And yes I believe that it can become that serious.

2,148 posted on 02/12/2005 12:25:24 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (MSM Fraudcasters are skid marks on journalism's clean shorts.)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
"I'd support the President if he would be up front. "

What do you think he's not being up front about? He's said the current immigration laws don't reflect the economic reality and his solution is a guest worker program involving some type matching of employers unable to hire citizen with foreigners willing to take those jobs.

Other than that he hasn't really said much. When he says that family values don't end at the border I think he is referring to fact the Mexican laborers will continue to come as long as that is the only they can support their families.

I've discussed the issue with many of the same people here in Texas that Bush has (Senators, Congressmen, x-Gov, party leaders, business leaders, political consultants) and everyone sincerely believes that as long as we need them and they need to come here to support their families, there is no way we can stop it. Accept the reality and try to reform the laws to deal with it as best possible.

Those who believe that we can seal the borders aren't living in the real world.

2,221 posted on 02/12/2005 1:12:20 PM PST by bayourod (Unless we get over 40% of the Hispanic vote in 2008, President Hillary will take all your guns away.)
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