[moehoward]

There are definitely pro-amnesty FReepers.

I would debate that. Most feel that the Bush plan is not amnesty.

Now there's a poll for Freepers to take. If it's been done I'd love to see the results.

[k2blader]

Ha! That would be interesting... :-)

[Cold Heat]

Unfortunately, I would not likely be happy with the results.

His idea, which is not new, has been severely demonized on this and other forums. It was lightning rod that opened up the 1986 wound.

I can understand it, but we must move on and mass deportation would never be attempted, for more reasons than I can state in ten minutes.

I see some talking about a wall that will not fly either.

People need to sit down and list all the potential unintended consequences for these simple fix ideas.

The sugar analogy is the best one, because everyone can relate to ants. It correlates well to illegal behavior.

Take away the sugar. Make it so that without a permit they cannot expect to ever work, then control the numbers with the permit system.

Punish them with fines if needed and allow them to come and more importantly go as they please.

The border needs to be tightened simultaneously and it may well do the trick, but the entire code and business regs need to be reformed to give it a chance.

The business regs are a key part. That is the sugar and all the businesses are hidden in the underground cash economy.

The cash economy will be and must be a victim of these changes.

I gotta go to sleep and inspect my eyelids. G'nite!