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To: FITZ

Ask all the pro-migra victors today if they want the illegals deported?

I know one who has already said no.

They claim they are not open borders or pro-illegals but will they send the illegals back. Will they close the borders? Are they willing to reduce immigration back to a trickle of legals and political refugees as it should be..in my view. Anything beyond that should be strictly controlled guest workers like the truck farming workers when I was a kid.

And while we are at it. Lets'have a poll to see how many freepers support W's immigration proposal....his party and most leading righty pundits don't? but let's check freeperdom.

That little poll today was a bit of a push poll...lol

Do you support illegal immigration?...lol....not many will cop to that.

Let's see what the division is here twixt those who support W's vision on this and who don't. I would sincerely like to know.....I'm only seeing a lot of noise...including my own admittedly.


1,580 posted on 02/11/2005 10:27:48 PM PST by wardaddy (I don't think Muslims are good for America....just a gut instinct thing.)
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To: wardaddy

It was a silly and stupid poll. It did not allow for "nuance." So what? Many posts here didn't either, including some of yours, and I like you anyway.


1,587 posted on 02/11/2005 10:30:12 PM PST by Torie
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To: wardaddy
They claim they are not open borders

Open borders for only one country though --- they don't mean to let desperate Haitians over to prevent chaos or strife in Haiti and to keep the Haitan elite safe and sound. Everything for the Mexican government --- that's what they're really about. Massive immigration from Mexico saves the skins of the corrupt ruling class in Mexico. That's the only thing it achieves. Mexico's ruling class is very racist --- yet the open borders types feel a strong need to keep them in power --- but at the same time will call Americans racists for being opposed to Mexico's ethnic cleansing.

1,595 posted on 02/11/2005 10:36:40 PM PST by FITZ
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To: wardaddy

Another good question --- how many of us need guest workers? I don't. I also don't need to pay for the education and free health care of someone else's.

If someone can't afford to get their cheap yard-boy a health insurance plan --- or pay him wages high enough so he can pay his family's health care costs ---- then why the taxpayers have to provide subsidized labor for them?

An awful lot of the "work" being done by illegals isn't going to be a loss to anyone at all if it doesn't get done. If my neighbor's leaves don't get raked --- so what? Ir your neighbor's beds don't get made and he has to do his own dishes --- big deal. If someone doesn't have a cheap but uninsured live-in nanny and has to take their kids to a day care --- no big loss.


1,631 posted on 02/11/2005 11:02:11 PM PST by FITZ
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