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I don't think building new walls akin to the Berlin wall is the "right" thing to do. I'll stand with with Ronald Reagan and his speech that was actually heard around the world, "Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall".

Big difference. "Mr. Gorbachov's" fence was keeping people hostage, captives to the savages within. Our's would be preventing the wave of criminals from entering to become a subculture, making us hostages to that subculture within our own nation. A fence would be PROTECTING the freedoms inside the fence, OUR freedoms, keeping us from becoming captive hostages of the savages from without. Let's see....20,000,000 illegals at a cost of $1700, each that's $34 BILLION. We can buy and police a lot of fence for that amount.

$34 BILLION. We can buy and police a lot of fence for that amount.

And some guards can be bribed. As Luiz Gonzalez has noted, you only need a very small hole for a lot of ants to get in the house. [His recommendation is to lock up the sugar.]

Have you actually checked how much the union rate for building 6,000 miles of security fencing would be? You may be seriously underestimating the cost.

Think about the Big Dig in Boston before you make your estimate.

Someone posted that the Israelis only had to build 72 miles of fencing.

A wall, like...like... the Maginot Line! The problem I have with "a wall" is that historically walls have been very bad at keeping people out, as they are static.

Part of the problem with this discussion, imo, is that there are two different questions here: 1) What do we want to do, and 2) how do we do it?

I think we can mostly agree that we don't want opened borders and are against illegal immigration (hey, lets really go out on a limb and say we're also against lawlessness). But then that begs the question of what are we trying to do and what are our priorities? Even our great big bloated government need to set priorities as even the Feds don't have limitless resources. Are we trying to stop terrorists from crossing our border with Mexico, or is our priority getting treatment in our local ER's without being hindered by illegal immigrants being treated for a cold?

So what are our priorities? Are they: a) Stopping islam-o-fascists from entering our country. b) Defending our social infastructure (like hospitals and schools and parks) from free-riding Illegals. c) Defending our culture from an aggressive foreign invasion. d) Fighting lawlessness. e) Add your own priority here. Now, this is my ranking in order of importance. Each of these is important to me, but the most important is a) Stopping islam-o-fascists from entering our country. We've got 10 -20 million illegals here right now, so we need to separate the sheep from the wolves. One really quick way to do that is to have all the sheep (voluntarily) stand up (and get fingerprinted). Will this have unintended consequences, you betcha! But lets not let the perfect be the enemy of the good. The President's plan is good, but far from perfect. But it is by far the most workable plan I've seen.