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To: Jim Robinson
Well said. I've never been able to understand the kind of thinking that would result in a "Festung America". From the words on the statue of liberty to the ideas in the Federalist Papers, this country's strength ultimately comes from accepting people who wish to be free.

To prevent the border crossers from Texas and New Mexico alone would require a standing Army of 3 Million, and that's not even counting Canada. Standing shoulder to shoulder at the border can't work, and all the wishful thinking in the world won't change that fact.

The way things are going I expect a resurgence of the "America First" types. Note that I don't pretend to have any idea how to deal with the problem, but I'm smart enough to know that "open season" on illegal immigrants is not only stupid, it's palpably evil. Flame me if you want, but I know what's honorable and what isn't.

102 posted on 02/11/2005 11:19:59 AM PST by Right Winged American (We don't need a fountain of youth, what we need is a fountain of SMART!)
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To: Right Winged American
From the words on the statue of liberty to the ideas in the Federalist Papers, this country's strength ultimately comes from accepting people who wish to be free.

Several questions come to mind regarding this:

1. If they truly want to be free why don't they become part of our culture? Every recent hispanic "immigrant" that I know refers to his home country when he says, "My country..." Whereas the few Polish immigrants I know refer to the U.S. as their country. Even the asians I know refer to the U.S. as their country.

2. At what point do we finally stop the inflow? Sure, they all want to free but can we supply the billions that want to get here the freedom they want?

3. Is it about freedom or is it about economic opportunity? If it is about economic opportunity then they should be willing to work in their home country to gain that economic freedom. Why is it the United States' responsibility to provide economic freedom to these millions?

To prevent the border crossers from Texas and New Mexico alone would require a standing Army of 3 Million,...

I don't agree. An aggressive enforcement of the laws we have would discourage most. The reason it is so rampant is because the word is out that we don't do anything about it.

The way things are going I expect a resurgence of the "America First" types.

What's wrong with seeing your home country as "first"? I want America to thrive and survive before any other country on earth. Don't you?

155 posted on 02/11/2005 11:37:05 AM PST by raybbr
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To: Right Winged American

Your post qualifies as the most inane so far on this thread.


608 posted on 02/11/2005 1:44:59 PM PST by dennisw (Qur’an 9:3 “Allah and His Messenger dissolve obligations.”)
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To: Right Winged American
To prevent the border crossers from Texas and New Mexico alone would require a standing Army of 3 Million

No, all that is need is the Government to stop welfare and enforce our current laws.

No fences, no Army, none of that. Take away the welfare and the free jobs and enact a viable guest worker program and illegal immigration will drop to a very manageable situation.

619 posted on 02/11/2005 1:50:47 PM PST by Marine Inspector (Customs & Border Protection Officer)
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To: Right Winged American
I know what's honorable and what isn't

I've always believed that breaking the law is dishonorable. The lawbreakers in this instance are those who come illegally, those who hire them illegally, and those who refuse to enforce the law. Does that possibly suggest the solution you seek? If they aren't hired they won't come -- no standing army needed.

I ask this question for the hundredth time: if it's okay to break immigration law, what laws should any of us respect? Otherwise forget the hypocritical lie that this is a nation of laws, not men.

643 posted on 02/11/2005 1:58:30 PM PST by Bernard Marx (Don't make the mistake of interpreting my Civility as Servility)
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To: Right Winged American
The way things are going I expect a resurgence of the "America First" types.


No need to expect it, RWA. They're already here.


836 posted on 02/11/2005 3:11:39 PM PST by rdb3 (The wife asked how I slept last night. I said, "How do I know? I was asleep!")
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To: Right Winged American
Well said.
1,944 posted on 02/12/2005 8:27:03 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Right Winged American
To prevent the border crossers from Texas and New Mexico alone would require a standing Army of 3 Million

Actually it'd take 10 million or more. What's required is a serious effort to change the conditions here that enable illegals. The beginning took place rather quietly a week ago with the passage in the House of a law that forces states not to issue driver's licenses to illegal aliens. If we reduce rights of appeal to illegals and refuse to ever offer citizenship to intercepted illegals the pool would begin to shrink.

2,322 posted on 02/12/2005 3:59:06 PM PST by An Old Marine (Freedom isn't Free)
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