Not so ‘Free Republic’: The Shot Heard Around the Net

The Conservative Voice ^ | Feb 11, 2005 | by William Gheen, President, Americans for Legal Immigration PAC

[R. Scott]

WOW! Could DU and our “esteemed” news media be wrong?
Did I read the article wrong?
Jim and FR aren’t really working for the White House? There is actually disagreement?

[Once-Ler]

Your post qualifies as the most inane so far on this thread.

Your reply qualifies as the most useless. Why do you even post. Can't you express why you think a post is inane? Is that too hard for you?

[raybbr]

I would debate that. Most feel that the Bush plan is not amnesty.

amnesty

n 1: a period during which offenders are exempt from punishment 2: a warrant granting release from punishment for an offense [syn: pardon] 3: the formal act of liberating someone [syn: pardon, free pardon] v : grant a pardon to (a group of people)

I think Bush's plan falls under the definition.

Then there is the other question: What makes you think that people that have been breaking the law for years will all of a sudden decide to start following it? What's the incentive. Oh, wait. I know - we'll let them collect social security. No wonder Bush wants to start working on SS right away.

[wita]

I didn't get a ping, but then I don't read all of my pings because there are so many of them. I'm here anyway, and agree that this is Jim's site, always has been, and he is "free" to do with it and those who use it, as he wishes.

[raybbr]

I miss him, too.

[Once-Ler]

I ask this question for the hundredth time: if it's okay to break immigration law, what laws should any of us respect?

Laws protecting abortions, gun bans, CFR, seatbelt laws, endangered species act, laws that forbide nativity sceens, smoking bans, and copyrights.

[wita]

Did you catch the comments about "Jim Robinson and his staff". Thought that had a nice ring to it.

[tort_feasor]

Jim,

I oppose illegal immigration and open borders. I also support the president's guest worker program as the only rational method proposed to get a handle on the issue. We have millions of undocumented aliens and the only way to track them is to get their compliance. Finally, I think the US should have a significant number of permanent residency visas available, so that freedom loving, productive people can join us in this great experiment.

[Once-Ler]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America_First

The America First movement was an isolationalist group that opposed United States involvement in World War II. Many prominent Americans were members, including aviator Charles Lindbergh. At its peak, America First had 800,000 members.

[wita]

I lied, unitentionally of course. David Osborne pinged me at 152.

[raybbr]

...the AFC advocated four basic principles:

1. The United States must build an impregnable defense for America.

2. No foreign power, nor group of powers, can successfully attack a prepared America.

3. American democracy can be preserved only by keeping out of the European war.

4. "Aid short of war" weakens national defense at home and threatens to involve America in war abroad.

Number 3 has no bearing on today's topic. As for the other 3 - they are not desirable because....?

[Bahbah]

electronic executions

They put this in to sound ominous, but I kind of like it. ;)

[staytrue]

I'm a Christian (first), and a real American (second).

This is why the Romans persecuted the Christians and this is why anyone who likes big govt., hates Christians. You will swear allegiance to Christ before you kneel at the Govt. altar.

[visitor]

when I signed on this morning the first thing I did was vote on this issue and like you I do NOT support illegal immagration or open borders, the results so far show 95% of all voters do NOT support it and are in full agreement with your "noted" statemant, so keep on keeping on ...rto

[Godebert]

"They serve the purpose of making the rest of look just like the Bible-thumping, NRA membership owning, middle-aged, right-wing extremist males the left stereotypes us as."

You have a problem with "Bible-thumping, NRA membership owning, middle-aged, right-wing extremist males"? Geez....maybe if I eat more granola bars it will make me more sensitive and compassionate.

[Once-Ler]

I wish we'd build a fence from California to the other side of Texas to keep the illegals out. Put up a mine field and a few warning signs. HOw's that?

Pretty sad. We can solve all crime by killing the criminals but where do we draw the line. Maybe we should build death traps within the walls of banks to prevent robberies. How about some device that crushes the criminals to death in the act of the crime. Couple dozen unspeakable and inhuman acts could virtually stop all crime except the huge backlash of protest by those sissy-girl Christians who are squeemish about blowing up families...even Mexican familes...ya' know...without a trial and stuff.

[Godebert]

"Was there a poll I missed? I love it when people create their own statistics."

Looks like Jim Rob made a poll. Did you vote yet?

; )

[Once-Ler]

However, no one speech - and no possession of medals - did more to tarnish Lindbergh's reputation or that of America First than the speech he delivered to a rally in Des Moines, Iowa on September 11, 1941. In that speech he blamed the British, the Roosevelt administration, and the Jews for drawing America into the war, proclaiming that they were all agitators.

[LibKill]

Thanks for setting things straight.

It's your forum, I wipe my feet before I come in and try my best to behave myself.