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Posted on 02/08/2005 2:55:55 AM PST by Robert Drobot
Analysis of the latest Census data indicates that California's illegal immigrant population is costing the state's taxpayers more than $10.5 billion per year for education, medical care and incarceration. Even if the estimated tax contributions of illegal immigrant workers are subtracted, net outlays still amount to nearly $9 billion per year. The annual fiscal burden from those three areas of state expenditures amounts to about $1,183 per household headed by a native-born resident.
This analysis looks specifically at the costs to the state for education, health care and incarceration resulting from illegal immigration. These three are the largest cost areas, and they are the same three areas analyzed in a 1994 study conducted by the Urban Institute, which provides a useful baseline for comparison ten years later. Other studies have been conducted in the interim, showing trends that support the conclusions of this report.
As this report will note, other significant costs associated with illegal immigration exist and should be taken into account by federal and state officials. But, even without accounting for all of the numerous areas in which costs associated with illegal immigration are being incurred by California taxpayers, the programs analyzed in this study indicate that the burden is substantial and that the costs are rapidly increasing.
The more than $10.1 billion in costs incurred by California taxpayers is composed of outlays in the following areas:
Education. Based on estimates of the illegal immigrant population in California and documented costs of K-12 schooling, Californians spend approximately $7.7 billion annually on education for illegal immigrant children and for their U.S.-born siblings. Nearly 15 percent of the K-12 public school students in California are children of illegal aliens.
Health care. Uncompensated medical outlays for health care provided to the state's illegal alien population amount to about $1.4 billion a year.
Incarceration. The cost of incarcerating illegal aliens in California's prisons and jails amounts to about $1.4 billion a year (not including related law enforcement and judicial expenditures or the monetary costs of the crimes that led to their incarceration). State and local taxes paid by the unauthorized immigrant population go toward offsetting these costs, but they do not come near to matching the expenses. The total of such payments can generously be estimated at about $1.6 billion per year.
The fiscal costs of illegal immigration do not end with these three major cost areas. The total costs of illegal immigration to the state's taxpayers would be considerably higher if other cost areas such as special English instruction, school feeding programs, or welfare benefits for American workers displaced by illegal alien workers were added into the equation.
While the primary responsibility for combating illegal immigration rests with the federal government, there are many measures that state and local governments can take to combat the problem. Californians should not be expected to assume this already large and growing burden from illegal immigration simply because businesses or other special interests benefit from being able to employ lower cost workers. The state must adopt measures to systematically collect information on illegal alien use of taxpayer-funded services and on where they are employed. Policies could then be pursued to hold employers financially accountable.
The state could also enter into a cooperative agreement with the federal government for training local law enforcement personnel in immigration law so that illegal immigrants apprehended for criminal activities may be turned over to immigration authorities for removal from the country. Similarly, local officials who have adopted "sanctuary" measures that shield illegal aliens from being reported to the immigration authorities should be urged to repeal them.
November 2004
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Once more, I'm not playing that stupid game where you make a statement and try to make me defend it.
If you are claiming I said that, prove it.
ROFLMAO. Right.
I see you often attacking folks on these type threads that are vocal about their opposition to illegal immigration and using limp policies such as that proposed by President Bush to remedy same. Are you actually in favor of all the illegals flooding our country?
"Diseases desperate grown/By desperate appliance are relieved, Or not at all." 
At least you caught the humor.
Free Republic Opinion Poll: What is your opinion regarding immigration:
| Composite Opinion | |||
|---|---|---|---|
| Illegal immigration is the problem. | 33.8% |   |
1,011 |
| Seal and militarize borders. | 33.0% | |
988 |
| Borders should be closed. | 15.7% | |
469 |
| Immigration should be reduced. | 10.1% | |
301 |
| Borders should be open. | 4.0% | |
121 |
| Immigration is not a big issue. | 3.4% | |
102 |
| 100.0% | 2,992 | ||
| Member Opinion | |||
| Illegal immigration is the problem. | 33.8% | |
997 |
| Seal and militarize borders. | 32.9% | |
972 |
| Borders should be closed. | 15.7% | |
463 |
| Immigration should be reduced. | 10.1% | |
298 |
| Borders should be open. | 4.0% | |
119 |
| Immigration is not a big issue. | 3.4% | |
101 |
| 99.9% | 2,950 | ||
| Non-Member Opinion | |||
| Seal and militarize borders. | 38.1% | |
16 |
| Illegal immigration is the problem. | 33.3% | |
14 |
| Borders should be closed. | 14.3% | |
6 |
| Immigration should be reduced. | 7.1% | |
3 |
| Borders should be open. | 4.8% | |
2 |
| Immigration is not a big issue. | 2.4% | |
1 |
| 100.0% | 42 | ||
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Ouch
My point is, you seem to feel the rules are optional for you. YOU lecture on name calling and courtesy, when engaging in it yourself. Play by the rules or not, but don't lecture unless you can abide by your own standard, okay?
No, I am saying that in the real world, it's not the number one problem that the posters on these threads try to insist it is.
Are you actually in favor of all the illegals flooding our country?
Nice try.
Actually, I didn't bring up the rules; I merely pointed out that the poster who was "upset" that I called him a liar had already lied about me.
Reading comprehension is a wonderful thing.
Parse it how you will, but you can't deny the fact that many directly benefit from illegals, without any intermediary, no evil cabal of "employers". Lots of blame to go around here.
>>Once more, I'm not playing that stupid game where you make a statement and try to make me defend it.
If you are claiming I said that, prove it.<<
Is it uncomfortable when I turn your style around on you? You are constantly calling people names who want something done about the illegal aliens. You try to protect the President, who is capable of protecting himself from people such as myself.
By protecting him you are agreeing with his policies about the illegals, (old news) which I don't.
But is it really one of the top problems and many don't realize it because the effects are subtle and hidden?
Nice try.
I don't understand. I simply asked you to clarify your beliefs regarding illegal immigration. I don't know what they are. I wasn't trying anything.
Are they so irrational that you are ashamed to state them and debate their merits?
Nice try, but you'll never be able to prove it as long as you lie about the president's proposal; he isn't in favor of allowing illegal aliens to remain in this country "unbothered by Immigration Officials," which, by the way, is NOT capitalized.
Since you seem intent on twisting my words and the president's words, why don't you just post to yourself.
You claim to want something done; just remember that Bush's proposal is the ONLY plan on the table, so if you're not willing to work with it, you're for the status quo, which is what I would guess anyway.
If you manage to defeat his plan -- or any plan that doesn't reflect your narrow view -- I presume you're going to stop whining about him not doing anything, right? NOT.
You said you've read my posts; unless you're one of the ones who insisted on twisting words, you know what they are.
I support ANY plan that makes it better than it is now.
And I am able to face the fact that there is never going to be a "plan" where authorities go door to door, dragging illegals back over the border.
Example - When my lawn service employs Illegals to perform some of that work that 'No American will do' the service does not reduce the price to me by the amount he has 'Saved' by avoiding taxes and paying the Laborers a lower wage than it would otherwise be. No, he pockets the difference between his reduced costs and the price he has always charged for his service. And, when the accounting is complete, these workers are probably not as badly paid as the comparable Legal Worker is on an after tax basis. The Illegal is usually paid in cash and pays no taxes so he probably does near as well as the Legal who pays the taxes.
These are the reasons I strongly feel that it is the Employers of Illegals who are the largest beneficiaries of this practice and, following, it is they who deserve condemnation and punishment.
What about just enforcing the existing laws? Fine employers. Deport illegals. It's already the law.
How will making another law suddenly produce the will to enforce that law when the will to enforce laws is the root of the problem?
You might want to do some research on that.
Let's take our fussing and fighting over to this thread:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1338537/posts
I'm curious to see what arguments are found in favor of the Border Patrol releasing illegal aliens by the van load at bus stations.
I'm glad you support Tancredo's plan. I'm sure you'll write your Congressmen and ask them to support it also.
Right?
LOL I doubt you'll ever satisfy these Tancretoids. They're just clearing the field for their boy Tom in 2008.
That gives them plenty of time to sell it off or ship it back to their home country. Gives them fair warning about losing everything they have worked for. Leave or else.
kind of like telling the burglar in your home, "Get out before you find out if this shotgun is loaded."
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We don't elect officials to ignore the laws Congress passes but you don't seem to have any difficulty with them doing so. Why?
Don't you have to obey the laws? I sure do.
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