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I answered your question. Here it is again. Do not think that we would blindly defend Europe right now. Everything has changed since 9/11. The public has been much more engaged and is aware of the anti-Americanism coming from certain quarters of Europe. Don't, for a minute, think that we would play "saviour" to France or even Germany. NATO serves our purposes for the time being. As long as it does - we will support it.

Nope still not answered.

The analogy is simple. Israel gets US aid not military personnel or a "savior." Unlike Europe, the US has never rescued Israel militarily. The analogy is money to NATO without strings and money to Israel with strings. Somehow you have thrown in the US will not act as "savior" to Europe. Well Israel has never asked nor required that. So irrelevant whether the US will save Europe again. Stick to the issue -- financial support.

Your blanket four word statement "NATO serves our purposes" doesn't make it so or add anything to the discussion. Prove it. I have a long post discussing the reverse conclusion. At least refute it.

This thread has diminished my support for Israel, that is true.

Once again you have made your pique at some posters in a forum, not US interests, the deciding factor in support for a US ally. What discernment. And where is the love of country in that? I somehow don't think you have the ear of the President so I'm not atremble.

As to the rest...yadayadayada. Who cares. Your mantra is repetitive as mantras are.

I have answered you. It is of no consequence whether you "accept" it or not. But it is of consequence that my opinion is that if Israel doesn't want our council - then Israel should probably not be "needing" our support in other areas as well. My opinion. I don't have to hold all countries to the same standard. I would do far more for England than I would for Israel. What is that to you?

NATO serves our purpose. As do coalitions of the willing. That requires no more to be said.

Yes, as I said - I had no idea how ungrateful and arrogant some Israelis are. That makes a difference to me. I find it odd that it wouldn't make a difference to you.

My interest is in what serves America. As long as Israel is a good friend and ally to America as long as American and Israeli interests coincide - I will support Israel. If Israel turns on us or slaps us in the face - that will change my view.

I used to feel differently about France than I do now. Same with Canada. The way that countries and citizens within those countries treat America, Americans and our President makes a difference to me. For it not to - would be strange.

I am less supportive of Israel now having met you and your nine or so commrades. That is the impact you have had on me.

You have not said anything new or valuable since your first posts. Have you nothing "germane" to add - or to you just get a kick out of insulting me?