Posted on 01/31/2005 8:31:00 PM PST by jveritas
Edited on 01/31/2005 8:36:26 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]
In the last three months the obsessed minority of freepers but very vocal who hate President Bush have been bombarding us with every illegal immigration thread under the sun so they have their "BASH BUSH ORGY".
Since these freepers want to deport every illegal immigrant, here is the challenge for you:
Pick up your phone and report to the INS about an illegal immigrant and his employer. I am sure you know at least one illegal immigrant who works in a convenient store, on a gas station, clean the garbage in your office, clean the bathroom at your work place... And I am sure you know one of these employers who hire illegal immigrants. Go ahead Macho Guys, do your duty and report them to the INS. Let us see how courageous you are and let us see your action following your rhetoric.
Go ahead, ping each other and show us your heroism.
I disagree with you on this. I think only the liberals would have a fit. I think most people would welcome it.
I think that the "guest worker" program is the only realistic alternative left to the country at this time.
I don't really like the thought of illegal immigrants being rewarded just because they are already here but I don't have a better alternative that is realistically able to be accomplished.
Could we deport 8 to 15 million illegal immigrants?
Yes
Would it cause untold economic damage, riots, battles?
Probably.
I will support President Bush's "guest worker" program ONLY if the government agrees to deport those here illegally that are the actual criminals AND get serious about controlling our borders.
If the USA has a "guest worker" program there should be no reason for anyone to be trying to sneak across the border.
If there is someone in the area of the border and they can't show proper ID, take 'em and put 'em back on the Mexican side of the border. If they resist, use the appropriate amount of force up to, and incuding, deadly force.
Very good analysis and I support you.
Because the pro-illegal alien lobby has a bottomless pit of money and can hire PR people to spin (and fabricate) anything any way, there are an undue number of myths and lies that the public (and many politicians) has bought into. The FACTS are:
1. It is NOT racist to call these people "illegal aliens" In fact, "illegal aliens" is the only term used in federal laws and regulations to describe criminals (and they ARE criminals) who come into our country illegally. They are not illegal immigrants, not undocumented immigrants, not migrant workers, and not day laborers - they're ILLEGAL ALIENS.
2. Mexico is NOT a poor country. It has the fifth richest economy in the world, and by sending its teeming masses to our country, that status keeps on rising. Mexico has more resources per square mile than the U.S. and plenty of money to take care of its own people. Why should the taxpayers of this country subsidize Mexico's corruption?
3. Illegal aliens are NOT necessarily coming here to work. Lou Dobbs recently reported that 33 percent of our prison population is now comprised of non-citizens. Plus, 36 to 42 percent of illegal aliens are on welfare. So, for a good proportion of these people, the American dream is crime and welfare, not coming here to work.
4. Illegal aliens are NOT doing work Americans won't do. What jobs won't Americans do? In most states, Americans still clean their own houses, do their own landscaping, clean hotel rooms, work in restaurants and fast food places, paint houses, DO CONSTRUCTION WORK, work in airports, etc. - just like we have the past 200 years before "our" government allowed these people to invade our country. There are 18 million Americans who cannot find a job, so illegal aliens who are coming here to work do so at peril to American workers.
5. Illegal aliens absolutely do not contribute more than they cost. Certainly the millions in prison and on welfare aren't contributing a dime to our economy, and the ones who are working often are paid in cash with no deductions for taxes at all. The ones who use fraudulent social security numbers and qualify to pay taxes and social security have so many deductions for dependents that they pay little if any taxes. We have seen them pay less than $100 in taxes and get back $4,000 refunds (thanks to earned income tax credits and multiple dependents). The Center for Immigration Studies estimates that the average Mexican illegal alien costs U.S. taxpayers a whopping $55,000 each. Some bargain, eh?
6. The economy does NOT depend on illegal aliens. Sure, greedy CEOs (making $50 to $150 MILLION a year) and business owners depend on illegal aliens, but due to #3, #4 and #5 above, the only thing illegal aliens are contributing to is the collapse of our economy and making the rich richer.
7. Without illegal aliens, the price of agricultural products and other goods and services will NOT soar. The definitive study on this subject is the University of Iowa's "How Much Is That Tomato?" The study concludes that 'since labor is such a small component of the end-price of agricultural products (which includes price to the growers, transportation costs, processing /storage costs, grocers' profit, etc.), using minimum wage workers instead of illegal aliens would increase prices of agricultural products by approximately 3 percent in the summer and 4 percent in the winter ... hardly the making of $10 heads of lettuce, $25 hamburgers, $1,000 per night Days Inn hotel rooms like the pro-illegal alien lobby claims.
8. Consumers are NOT benefiting from lower labor costs. Again, it's CEOs and business owners who benefit from taxpayer subsidies for their illegal alien workers. The Big Three automakers say they moved so many jobs to Mexico because their labor costs are 80 percent less than in America. Anybody notice the price of new cars spiraling downward under NAFTA?
So, before you believe the prevalent pack of lies perpetuated by the illegal alien lobby, which makes billions off this government-sanctioned criminal activity, ask yourself who's saying this garbage and look at what they have to gain. Citizens Against Illegal Immigration, just like Protect Arizona NOW, is an all-volunteer, totally grass-roots organization of citizens who are making nothing and have nothing personal to gain from their efforts to fight this corruption.
Whose side are you on, and what are YOU doing to save your state and country from this evil?
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As I said pick up the phone and call the INS. I am not going to do it.
What makes you think I haven't? "Press 1 for English, Press 2 for Spanish".
One state Senator in Arkansas has introduced a bill to require Arkansas to participate. (co-sponsored by two of Asa Huitchinson's nephews). Link to Arkansas.
Not gloating at all. Just stating an opinion. I have thought about a scenario like you mentioned and I might just be tired today, but I can't conjure up any feelings at all about it either for or against. Sorry.
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If you had an IQ above 1, you would know that there is no such Federal Agency called the INS.
Oh, I missed this earlier.
Well I've done it and reported the illegals and their employers. Naturally, nothing is done since the Bush Administration WANTS NOTHING DONE.
As someone who who like to see laws enforced should I be enraged? Ashamed? Oh well.
So you prefer no borders?
You're just full of solutions aren't you?
What a great post! I'm saving it for future use. Thank you!
You got me there, my IQ is less than 1.
As for your challenge here, I've turned in employers who I know hire illegal aliens. I turned in a huge employer to the IRS who I know isn't withholding for his illegal employees. I hope they gut his business and INS swoops in and deports the invaders. I will jump at the opportunity to do it again if I have strong enough evidence that someone is hiring an illegal alien.
1. You sure are one cocky SOB.
2. Mucho means "much" in english, so stop calling FReepers Mucho Guys.
3. Most everyone SUSPECTS someone they know is an illegal but without proof it would be idiotic to call INS because you think someone's illegal, which is what you seem to be suggesting people do.
4. Proof of #1, you wrote: "The Christian illegal immigrant from Mexico is far more better than a Muslim fundamentalist legal immigrant."
Hey, you're cocky and a know-it-all!
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