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To: Dr. Eckleburg; Buggman; P-Marlowe
One is born in the Spirit by choosing to trust in God after He has extended His initiative. Without God first taking the initiative, NO MAN COMES TO HIM.

DrE said that Bugman said one is born in the Spirit by choosing to trust in God and followed by saying that Buggman said that "man is saved by his own choice."

What a distortion!

892 posted on 01/28/2005 11:56:06 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: xzins; Buggman; fortheDeclaration; HarleyD; OrthodoxPresbyterian; RnMomof7; nobdysfool; Gamecock; ..
What a distortion!

Hey, forget my comment. Buggman's statement sinks on its own...

Buggman: "One is born in the Spirit by choosing to trust in God"

ftd seems to be the only one of you who's comfortable with actually acknowledging what you believe. Every time anyone tries to understand it, someone yells "foul."

Regardless of how some are so quick to denounce others' motives, we're all trying to clarify various positions. And Buggman's above remark has been put forth hundreds of times as the Arminian position. Anyone who's followed any of these threads has seen that.

Monergism/synergism. The Arminian position is that man is born again by choosing wisely. The Reformed position is that man is born again by the grace of God alone.

920 posted on 01/29/2005 1:44:33 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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