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To: xzins; Buggman
Nor did I deny it...I said that the prevenient grace of God; i.e., the work of the Holy Spirit is the ENABLING power. At that point the Jailer IS going forward UNLESS he resists. "No man who puts his hand to the plow...." But some men have "always resisted the Holy Ghost."

Whether he resists or not, he has not "ears to hear" unless his Dead Spirit is first Quickened unto Spiritual Life.

The Rich Young Ruler went forward at the "Altar Call", just like the Philippian Jailer. But he was not given a Heart of True Repentance, by God; the Philippian Jailer was.

In other words, Man's Repentance is totally God's Decision.

882 posted on 01/28/2005 10:20:41 AM PST by OrthodoxPresbyterian (We are Unworthy Servants; We have only done Our Duty)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
I already said that No Good Works can "earn" Salvation, so the "Work of Faith" is not an Earnful Work; you've already admitted that True Faith involves a Work of Will (any "action" is a "work", period; the terms are perfect synonyms); we're going in circles.

OP, you can repeat that refrain all you want, but however you want to twist and distort the issue (and with all respect, that's precisely what you are doing), the Bible still says that faith, the "act" of trusting God, is not a work in the sense that you are trying to define it. You are not actually citing any Scripture in your side, nor are you addressing the Scripture that has been cited by mine--you are doing the debate equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ears and shouting a mantra at the top of your lungs.

Candidly, that's not typical behavior for you.

Whether he resists or not, he has not "ears to hear" unless his Dead Spirit is first Quickened unto Spiritual Life.

You still haven't answered or conceded the issue that we were already debating, so why should I bother debating this point with you?

890 posted on 01/28/2005 11:38:27 AM PST by Buggman (Your failure to be informed does not make me a kook.)
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