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To: HarleyD

I never said you believe after baptism, it is obviously before. It really seems like you are trying to make it sound like I am saying something that I have not. You have done this several times, and I find it to be very mean spirited.

In every verse where baptism and salvation are both mentioned, many of which I have already listed, the Bible lists baptism before salvation. Why do you think that is?


720 posted on 01/26/2005 12:28:03 PM PST by jkl1122
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To: jkl1122

I don't wish to sound "mean spirited". However, I have had a number of people in my life tell me you must be baptized to be saved. That is, quite frankly, hogwash. (no pun intended) That is not to minimize the importance of baptism but only to emphasize the total regeneration process.

The Bible list baptism before salvation in several of the verses because it was an important sacrament of the church and is a method to declare youself as a believer. But as I've illustrated with Cornelius, it is the filling of the Holy Spirit which saves you and this come before baptism. You are filled with the Holy Spirit the moment God regenerates you.


727 posted on 01/26/2005 12:47:24 PM PST by HarleyD (aka Codename: Heretic Harley-Ignorant Savage)
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