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To: HarleyD; jkl1122; Buggman
No mention of baptism.

You are quite right about that verse. However, to take up JK's point, there are verses that do link a necessity for baptism. We must deal with those.

No matter what we conclude, we cannot throw water baptism overboard.

It might not be a requirement for salvation, but it is presented as a necessary step.....We are told to baptize and believers are instructed to be baptized. I think submitting to baptism is a sign of believing in and submitting to Christ, and I think that refusal of baptism, when there is no unusual preventing circumstance,is sign that one has not really believed and submitted to their new Lord's instructions.

698 posted on 01/26/2005 11:11:47 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: xzins

It's nice to see someone at least acknowledge that baptism has to be taken seriously. While I don't totally agree with your view of baptism, I do think it is a step in the right direction.


699 posted on 01/26/2005 11:14:06 AM PST by jkl1122
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To: xzins; jkl1122; Buggman

I think I've mentioned somewhere back on one of my earlier posts that one cannot ignore the fact that baptism is a sacrament of the church and an important one. Be that as it may I DON'T believe it's what saves you. I hope you're not suggesting that! You may wish to provide clarification for jkl1122 who believes you're siding with him.


704 posted on 01/26/2005 11:31:00 AM PST by HarleyD (aka Codename: Heretic Harley-Ignorant Savage)
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