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To: HarleyD

"I would suggest the sinner has submitted to the will of Christ long before he/she is baptized. Otherwise they wouldn't want to be baptized. Baptism is an outward manifestation of that submission."

Please show me Biblical proof that baptism is an outward manifestation of the submission to Christ. Without Biblical proof, this is just your opinion.


687 posted on 01/26/2005 10:30:06 AM PST by jkl1122
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To: jkl1122
While Peter was still speaking these words, the Holy Spirit fell upon all those who were listening to the message. All the circumcised believers who came with Peter were amazed, because the gift of the Holy Spirit had been poured out on the Gentiles also. For they were hearing them speaking with tongues and exalting God. Then Peter answered, “Surely no one can refuse the water for these to be baptized who have received the Holy Spirit just as we did, can he?” Acts 10: 44-47

In Him, you also, after listening to the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation-having also believed, you were sealed in Him with the Holy Spirit of promise.” Eph 1:13

Cornelius and company received the gift of the Holy Spirit BEFORE they were baptized. As we can see from Ephesians the Holy Spirit is our guarantee of our promise-not our baptism.

BTW-Some of the words Peter spoke were:

Of Him all the prophets bear witness that through His name everyone who believes in Him receives forgiveness of sins.” Acts 10:43

No mention of baptism.

696 posted on 01/26/2005 10:57:49 AM PST by HarleyD (aka Codename: Heretic Harley-Ignorant Savage)
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