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To: fortheDeclaration
That would make no sense.

If you read scripture it makes perfect sense

When you are born you are born dead in Adam.
That is the basis of why were are spiritually dead, we are in Adam. For as in Adam all die, so in Christ shall all be made alive (1Cor.15:22) If you are regenerated you are now no longer spiritually dead and but, (according to Calvinism) not yet in Christ (which is where spiritual life is) You are in a spiritual limbo, neither in Adam (dead/lost) nor in Christ (saved/alive) You must be either one at any one moment, either spiritually dead or alive. Salvation is not a process, it is an event, when you move from spiritual death (1st Adam) to spiritual life (2nd Adam) and that is through faith which precedes regeneration.

I would just like you to explain to me how that spiritually dead man in Adam can make a spiritual "choice" to change location? What came first for Lazarus, His decision to change locations or regeneration?

You have a dead man making a decision to be alive and then to move his location from Adam to Christ . All the while making that move so that he can be alive when he gets there.

So when a pseudo wanna be Calvinist says "dead in Adam" he does not REALLY mean" dead in Adam" He does not really believe men died in Adam and need a new life in Christ.. He believes that men were only slightly injured in Adam and they can limp forth from the grave in Adam in their own power

No Grace or mercy there folks... just keep moving along

557 posted on 01/25/2005 8:44:27 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7; fortheDeclaration; xzins; P-Marlowe
He believes that men were only slightly injured in Adam and they can limp forth from the grave in Adam in their own power

Well that's certainly cute RN. But you of all people certainly know that's not the Wesleyan-Arminian view. Nor, as far as I am aware, is it the view of anyone posting on these threads.

But, you knew that.

558 posted on 01/25/2005 8:49:47 AM PST by Corin Stormhands (All we have to decide is what to do with the crap that we are given...)
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To: RnMomof7
Was Lazarus a regenerated man before he died?

Now, if you want to compare physical death to spiritual death, you have an analogy of a bunch of zombies walking the earth with no ability to will, think or act.

Total depravity is not total inability.

608 posted on 01/25/2005 2:39:15 PM PST by fortheDeclaration
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