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To: HarleyD
Yes, and he rejected just about everything Calvin wrote. A wolf in sheep's clothing.

Harley, Harley, Harley. You should know better than that. Heck even Calvin ended up disagreeing with his own institutes on the finer points of soteriology, but soteriology is only one point of Calvin's teachings. Arminius only disagreed with Calvin inasmuch as Calvin was a supralapsarian. I think that position by Calvin took up only the last chapter of the institutes and I don't think Calvin reiterated it as strongly in his commentaries.

To say that Arminius, who I'm sure read a lot more Calvin than you, disagreed with just about everything Calvin wrote is just not true. And Calvin was just a man like Arminius. Even old Calvin disagreed with young Calvin on some points. It was not Calvin that was the problem, but the rigid interpretation of Calvin's teachings on the mysteries of soteriology as enunciated in some of the confessions that was Arminius' problem.

And Rightly so. These should not be matters in which a man's fealty to the bible should be tested.

424 posted on 01/24/2005 6:55:48 AM PST by P-Marlowe
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To: P-Marlowe
"Arminius only disagreed with Calvin inasmuch as Calvin was a supralapsarian."

Ohhhhhhh pleazzzzzzzzzzzzze. Arminius died in October of 1609 and the very next year Arminius' followers published the Remonstrance of 1610. The 5 points of the Remonstrance was deemed heresy by the Synod of Dordt in 1618-19 which lead to the TULIP. Arminius' followers didn't get the Remonstrance 5 pointers from Joe Bazooka bubble gum wrappers.

427 posted on 01/24/2005 7:29:09 AM PST by HarleyD
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To: P-Marlowe; HarleyD; xzins; nobdysfool; RnMomof7; Frumanchu; GLENNS; thePilgrim

While Arminius spent most of his time refuting Supralapsarian, it is also clear that Arminius rejected INFRAlapsarianism as well. He simply concluded that INFRAlapsarianism was ultimately the same thing as SUPRAlapsarianism.

And he denounced them both, thus limiting God to men's ability to open doors.


473 posted on 01/24/2005 2:20:16 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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