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To: fortheDeclaration

Yes. His article, "on predestination."


417 posted on 01/24/2005 5:32:44 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: xzins; HarleyD; thePilgrim; GLENNS; nobdysfool; Frumanchu; jboot
Why don't you post his article and we can see for ourselves that Jacob Arminius was an agent of the Counter-Reformation, struggling by word and deceit to return the church to faith by men's good actions and by not God's predestinating, sovereign will alone.

Monergism/synergism.

In 1608, Arminius was locked in debate with the Calvinist, Franciscus Gomarus before the supreme court of Holland. The two were asked to bear with one another. The following year, Arminius and Gomarus were summoned before the states of Holland for negotiations. In October of 1609, negotiations between Jacobus Arminius and Franciscus Gomarus came to an end when Arminius died in Leyden.

Months later, the Remonstrants, followers of Jacobus Arminius, presented their position in a document entitled, "The Remonstrance" (Articuli Armininiani sire remonstrantia).

In 1618, the Synod of Dort was called to deal with the controversy surrounding the Remonstrants (followers of Arminius) where their teachings were condemned as heresy.

The Reformation was still an on-going event at this time, xzins. There was a lot thrown into the mix, some by believers, some by heretics, some by honest inquirers and some by paid provocateurs.

you seem to want to continue the ruse.

440 posted on 01/24/2005 11:39:45 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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To: xzins

Thanks, I will check it out.


463 posted on 01/24/2005 1:22:22 PM PST by fortheDeclaration
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To: xzins; RnMomof7; HarleyD; Frumanchu; GLENNS; Gamecock; thePilgrim; visually_augmented
This is from Rnmomof7's earlier post.

Arminian Five Points of the Remonstrance of 1610
with contrasting Five Points of Calvinism

1) Election is conditioned upon man's response or foreseen faith (conditional "election")

The Reformed Tradition, by contrast, teaches that election is unconditional.

2) Universal Atonement (According to Arminians Christ has already atoned and propitiated for the sins of all humanity. Christ purchased redemption not only for those who would believe but for all men, yet only those who believe go to heaven).

The Reformed Tradition asks, if this is the case, why aren't all men saved if all their sins are atoned for? Unbelief is also a sin. By contrast, we believe the Bible teaches that the redemptive blessings of the atonement were intended only for those who would believe, the elect (particular redemption). Christ died in a way for the elect that He did not for the non-elect.

3) "Unaided by the Holy Spirit, no person is able to respond to God's will" (thus eliminating the categorization of either "Pelagian" or "Semi-Pelagian." The latter holds that the first steps are originated by the human will rather than by the Holy Spirit)

This doctrine is similar to the Calvinist doctrine of total depravity, with some important differences.

4) Grace is not irresistible (Thus faith is itself a principle or capacity in autonomous natural man standing ultimately independent of God's action of grace)

The Reformed Tradition, by contrast, teaches that God can make His grace efficacious

5) Possibility of falling away from grace (This is the supposition that our sin as believers can result in God's judicial displeasure.) Many Arminians teach that our judicial standing before God must be maintained by holy living. Justification, in other words can be gained and lost.

The Reformed Tradition, by contrast, maintains the biblical teaching that our judicial standing before God is through Christ's blood, which alone is sufficient to maintain our justification. Holy living and perseverance springs from our new nature received in regeneration which now delights in God's law, and will not fall away.

These Five Points of the Remonstrance of 1610 are virtually identical (prima facie) with Catholic Molinism.

COUNTER

REFORMATION
469 posted on 01/24/2005 1:47:23 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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To: xzins; fortheDeclaration; HarleyD; GLENNS; Frumanchu; RnMomof7; thePilgrim; jboot
XZINS: Arminius always claimed the name calvinist.

FTD: Any references on that?

XZINS: Yes. His article, "on predestination."

Wrong.

Nowhere in that poorly written work of misdirection is the word Calvinist or Calvin written.

472 posted on 01/24/2005 2:05:03 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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