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To: RnMomof7
'Mom'you cannot pry a definition of the Gospel with a crowbar from the Calvinists on these threads. Dec, I remember before the GCPL ( Great Calvinist purge list) there were times when the only ones giving the gospel were woody and I ...the Armenians were silent ..maybe one of our archive folks want to go back and look for those threads..

I have given the scripture verses for salvation many times on these threads.

So what do the tracks say? Do they say that Christ died for the sinner or do they say maybe Christ died for you, lets step back and see if God saves you'? I think you are the only Calvinist on these threads who has given a correct Gospel and that is because you came out of an Arminian church! They present the gospel, you are a sinner and you need a Saviour..

So far so good, what else do the tracks say?

We know that if God gives them ears to hear they will, and if it is not the ordained time of salvation or if they are not the elect , they will just not hear it

Well, that was not the issue,the issue is you cannot say that Christ died for that particular individual.

We have an open youth program where the gospel is regularly presented ...on Superbowl Sunday we will be having an outreach to men.. a bible study and then a Superbowl party . We have a church plant in a town 20 minutes from us.. .so tell me again, what is YOUR CHURCH DOING on Super bowl Sunday? Do your teens go and tell? How many missions does your church support.. ours has about 20

Actually, the church supports a large number of missionaries.

However, I am against 'Super Bowl Sundays' since we are now bringing the world into the church.

I myself am starting my own track ministry, and am going to send tracks to homes in Sugar Land by mail.

I also send out Bibles.

Now, what does this have to do with a Christian not wanting to testify to the Gospel that saved him?

See Dec we were the first to take the gospel ...after all look at paul.predestined and preaching Without Calvinists you would be going to mass on Sundays..

In fairness to the Lutherans, I think they had more to do with that then did the Calvinists.

180 posted on 01/22/2005 1:48:58 PM PST by fortheDeclaration
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To: fortheDeclaration
In fairness to the Lutherans, I think they had more to do with that then did the Calvinists.

Luther was a student of Augustine...Augustine believed in election and predestination and so did Luther . In fact Luther believed in DOUBLE predestination .So as I said, you would still be going to mass were it not for Calvinists

201 posted on 01/22/2005 2:30:05 PM PST by RnMomof7
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