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To: fortheDeclaration; thePilgrim; xzins; Corin Stormhands
According to the Calvinist it lies in the intention,that God never intended to save all men (hence limited Atonement). The Arminian never says that God intended to save all men,(although He wanted to save all men) but only that all men were to be made savable.

That is an excellent post because it clearly points out that while the Calvinist certainly affirms the omnipotence and omniscience of God, the Arminian has a God who is unable to accomplish what He intended thus denying His Omnipotence. BTW, a Calvinist would also say that all men are potentially savable, that because of their humanness they possess the necessary attributes that would allow God to save them.

So what is so wierd about a God who can accomplish what He intended?

1,014 posted on 01/31/2005 7:05:14 AM PST by GLENNS
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To: GLENNS; fortheDeclaration; thePilgrim; xzins; P-Marlowe
That is an excellent post because it clearly points out that while the Calvinist certainly affirms the omnipotence and omniscience of God, the Arminian has a God who is unable to accomplish what He intended thus denying His Omnipotence.

No silly, it simply means that God wants all men to respond, but knows they won't.

BTW, a Calvinist would also say that all men are potentially savable, that because of their humanness they possess the necessary attributes that would allow God to save them.

Did you misspeak here? Human attributes "allow" God to save man?

Calvinism does not say all men are potentially savable. The non-elect were the non-elect from the foundation of the world.

They never had a chance. And, in Calvinism, they reject the gospel because that's what they were pre-programmed to do.

1,015 posted on 01/31/2005 7:15:17 AM PST by Corin Stormhands (One Iraqi purple finger took more courage than John Kerry's three purple hearts.)
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