Posted on 01/21/2005 6:34:28 AM PST by P-Marlowe
Dordtrecht is the city. I imagine they are dordtrectians or dordtrectites.
Out of respect for that honored name (cough, cough), and because of the esteemed Synod of Dordt, I have dubbed the adherents of that esteemed philosophy, "Dordtists (english: Dortist)"...with all rights and privileges appertaining thereunto.....(ahem)...
The continuun can now be called the "Calvin Continuum."
Far over on one side are the Dor(d)tists. Nicely located not too far and not too close to the dortists are the arminians.
Are you sure that isn't his lisp saying fishsssss?
Enquiring minds want to know. :>)
Like that?
See post #360.
You are actually very wrong.
On reading Arminius' "On Predestination" article it simply hit me that Arminius was NOT resigning from Calvinism, and that he was never kicked out, and that his beef was with supralapsarianism, and that he CITED a host of confessions PRIOR to dordt that had differences one to another. What that meant was that there was an EVOLVING confession rather than a static one, and that some in the earlier movement would have been unacceptable ODDLY ENOUGH to those in the later movement.
I've just been reading that Luther recanted his earlier predestinarian views.
All that mind-reading mentioned in your previous post has been to no avail.
You're no more a Calvinist than I'm the King of Spain. You oppose Calvinism at every turn, you and all your neener buddies. You won't even engage in serious debate. You think this is all a game, and your main purpose is to incite and inflame. You're like a child who pokes a stick at a dog or cat, or another animal, just to see how worked up you can get them. You shame the Name of Christ with your mocking, your prodding, your calculated digs and pokes at those of us who take our Christianity seriously. I don't have to read minds to see it. Your actions are proof enough. If Jesus posted here anonymously, and challenged your posts, you would treat Him the same way. This is especially alarming since you are an ordained minister. You of all people should know better. Your words and actions on this forum do not lift up the Name of Christ. Your words and actions cheapen your ordination, and hurt your position.
Simply mind-reading...and I reject your effort.
Exercised about minor things, some folks add more stress to their lives than they should.
Some might not like the historical record, but it is the record......Arminius was a Calvinist. It's simply a fact.
But his spiritual descendants aren't and weren't. That is also a fact.
That is a matter of definition and those with the power to define.
That's why I want to look into it.
I don't think that my theology is all that different from Arminius', so that's why I say, "calvinist in the tradition of Arminius."
I'm not stressed. And I'm not mind-reading. I'm stating what is clearly obvious to anyone who has read these threads for a while. You can't just dismiss it with a wave of your hand. The record speaks for itself.
This nonsense about you being "a Calvinist in the Arminian tradition" is offensive, disingenuous, and has no purpose other than inciting people. Jesus would never do such a thing.
The day you publicly confess belief in monergistic salvation, and renouce synergistic salvation as unbiblical, and publicly affirm belief in the Canons of the Synod of Dordt in all its points, and renounce your belief in the Articles of the Remonstrants, is the day you can legitimately claim to be a Calvinist. Until then, your Calvinism is a wolf in sheep's clothing, and in reality, a lie.
If I did what you recommend, then I'd be a calvinist in the dordtist tradition instead of one in the arminian tradition.
Who knows....perhaps you are struggling against God and my betterment as I set my sights on reviewing all of those old confessions.
Well, we all know you ain't no Calvinist at all. Saying you are with a qualifier doesn't make you one.
Who knows....perhaps you are struggling against God and my betterment as I set my sights on reviewing all of those old confessions.
I think that highly unlikely, but go ahead and study the old confessions. Maybe the Holy Spirit will remove the scales from your eyes. The day you beome a REAL Calvinist, I will rejoice.
See....there is a way to come to an understanding.
Dude, you really should consider switching to de-Calvin.
You're wound far too tight.
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Wow. First you rewrite the Calvinists, now it's the Lutherans.
Talk about tin foil.
Monergistic regeneration/synergistic regeneration.
Everything comes down to that. And there are only two sides, clearly drawn.
Would that you had eyes to see.
How many decades do you think we have left?
Are you saying that I didn't read it?
Or are you saying that what I did read was wrong?
I don't know. But our God is a God of miracles.
I'm still waiting for you to come to that understanding. Let me know when you do.
I tend to speculate out loud. I'm not sure we could ever be good friends, but we might be just friends.
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