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To: jonestown
He was preparing to renounce any tie to the US Constitution or the Republic he swore an oath to support & defend...

Sorry – but that’s not unconstitutional. If it was, it would be unconstitutional for veterans to emigrate...

;>)

WIJG: Again, please be specific: what article, section and clause of the United States Constitution prohibits secession? Hmm?

j: None do, as you well know. It is mindboggling that you would assume that our Constitution would encourage secession as a viable option to using the due process of Constitutional law to solve political problems... 'Secessions' only existence is in the minds of those who oppose our Constitutional principles... The people have never authorized any level of government the power to violate our Constitution, nor to secede.

A few points:

Your argument is internally inconsistent. On the one hand, you admit that “none” of the Constitution's written provisions prohibit secession. On the other hand, you imply that secession would somehow “violate our Constitution.”

You are also incorrect regarding the “option” of secession as a solution to “political problems.” If the federal government had not exceeded its constitutional authority by using military force to prevent the secession of the Southern States, almost three-quarters of a million American lives might have been saved, and the Union would likely have been restored in a peaceful manner. That sounds like a better “option” to me.

Third, you are wrong when you state that “[t]he people have never authorized any level of government... to secede.” The people of Texas, Virginia, and Tennessee voted to approve the secession of their States. Furthermore, your statement (“The people have never authorized any level of government the power to violate our Constitution”) assumes that secession somehow violates the Constitution – when you previously acknowledged that “none” of the Constitution’s provisions prohibit secession.

In summary, thanks for your opinion – but it doesn’t have much of a foundation...

;>)

385 posted on 01/07/2005 3:33:15 PM PST by Who is John Galt? ('Secession was unconstitutional' - the ultimate non sequitur...)
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To: Who is John Galt?
Whatever.

You keep going around in circles, attempting to justify secession from our Constitutional Union as an individual right.
-- It is.


-- Anyone that wants can renounce their citizenship. -- But as long as they stay in the USA, they must support our Constitution as the law of the land.

Seceding as a group, as a State, and continuing to live in the boundaries of the USA as a foreign power, is an entirely different 'game'. -- One you would not be allowed to play by the rest of the citizens of this Republic.

But feel free to dream on..
387 posted on 01/07/2005 4:14:12 PM PST by jonestown ( Tolerance for intolerance is not tolerance at all. Jonestown, TX)
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