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To: GOPcapitalist
haven't embarrased myself at all. You keep telling yourself that. Meanwhile the whole world can see plainly that you are so devoted to upholding your Lincoln idol that you will not even answer a simple mathematical question over whether 38,000 exceeds 4,000 for fear that it would reflect poorly on your side.

Not at all.

That one number exceeds the other is not the crucial issue.

And it wouldn't be if the numbers were reversed and the South had the 38,000 number.

What is also important is the severity of the charges (which you also said, favored the North)

And, also, the justification for the suspension.

Out of the 38,000 how many were not defensible and likewise, out of the 4,000?

To say one number is larger then the other and therefore the conclusion must be that the North was more abusive then the South is simply simplistic thinking.

What the numbers represent must be looked at as well.

The only one being embarrased is you with your overly simplistic approach to the question.

Yet, that is still not the entire story You keep saying that, and every single time you keep claiming there is something more, but whenever pressed you've got nothing more to offer beyond vague, unsubstantiated, and unscholarly speculation. It's time to either put up or shut up, ftD. Your failure to do so only embarrasses you further.

No, because, I want to see Bensel's book and find out what those numbers represent.

I have ordered it and I should receive it soon.

The numbers are only part of the story.

As Bensel himself stated, alot of the suspensions of civil liberties came not from the suspension of the Writ but via marital law.

Finally, it may have been that the South erred in not suspending the Writ more, since she was weakened by internal dissent, while the North got it right, even if some abuses did occur.

4,414 posted on 04/06/2005 7:18:02 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration
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To: fortheDeclaration
That one number exceeds the other is not the crucial issue.

It is when the disparity is almost 10 to 1. As I previously noted, you would have to demonstrate that each confederate arrest was 10 times as bad as each union arrest on average to reverse the trend indicated by those numbers, and that falls well in the realm of statistical impossibility. Out of the 38,000 how many were not defensible and likewise, out of the 4,000?

Any way you look at that question, you'd have to demonstrate that the northern arrests were 10 times more defensible than the southern arrests on average. That is simply too big of a burden for you to overcome no matter how many ways you recount it, Mr. Kerry.

4,415 posted on 04/06/2005 7:29:28 PM PDT by GOPcapitalist ("Marxism finds it easy to ally with Islamic zealotism" - Ludwig von Mises)
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