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To: fortheDeclaration
I don't know, but I do know Lincoln had nothing to do with it!

He signed the thing and made absolutely no plans to repeal it as the war was winding down. The biggest of the tax increases supported by Lincoln - the Morrill Tariff - didn't even have anything to do with funding the war and was intended to be permanent from the get go.

Maybe it was to pay for the cost of Reconstruction!

And reconstruction was going to cost as much as fighting the war itself?

As for the Progressives, ofcourse, since they were looking for a model for a income tax, they would look to one that had been used.

No kidding, and Saint Abe the Taxman provided a perfect model for them. They also knew that in his ENTIRE political career Abraham Lincoln never saw a tax increase that he did not support.

The tax was temporary since it did end-didn't it?

Only because they realized the income tax component was unconstitutional. Then they got around to amending that little problem away. The protective tariffs, BTW, were retained.

Neo-confederates-only Lincoln is a tyrant, Jeff Davis did the same things but you cannot bring them up!

Quoth the ftD: "Tu quoque! Tu quoque!"

Well, first, Lincoln had a Congress to deal with, and with the war over, his power would have been greatly limited.

Not a problem with taxes. On that both Lincoln and Congress were in complete agreement: if it moves, tax it.

Second, since he was murdered, we will never know what he would have done.

His 30 year+ political career in which he never once wavered from his advocacy of higher taxes is more than enough reason to expect that he would've maintained that course.

Did he have any control of it lasting 6 years after his death?

Technically no, but by that same logic FDR cannot be blamed for Social Security at any point later than 1945. But just as FDR fathered Social Security when he could control it, Lincoln fathered the Income Tax.

3,156 posted on 03/01/2005 8:29:55 PM PST by GOPcapitalist ("Marxism finds it easy to ally with Islamic zealotism" - Ludwig von Mises)
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To: GOPcapitalist
don't know, but I do know Lincoln had nothing to do with it! He signed the thing and made absolutely no plans to repeal it as the war was winding down. The biggest of the tax increases supported by Lincoln - the Morrill Tariff - didn't even have anything to do with funding the war and was intended to be permanent from the get go.

Amazing how you could predict what a post-war Lincoln adminstration would have done!

But myth does replace history in the imagination of the Neo-Confederates.

Maybe it was to pay for the cost of Reconstruction! And reconstruction was going to cost as much as fighting the war itself?

I don't know, the Confederates are a pretty stubborn bunch.

they are still giving people a hard time and they lost the war over a hundred years ago.

As for the Progressives, ofcourse, since they were looking for a model for a income tax, they would look to one that had been used. No kidding, and Saint Abe the Taxman provided a perfect model for them. They also knew that in his ENTIRE political career Abraham Lincoln never saw a tax increase that he did not support.

Since Lincoln had only one term as a Congressman and one full term as a wartime President, your statment is simply nonsense.

The tax was temporary since it did end-didn't it? Only because they realized the income tax component was unconstitutional. Then they got around to amending that little problem away. The protective tariffs, BTW, were retained.

So they did end it.

The protective tarriffs were constitutional.

Neo-confederates-only Lincoln is a tyrant, Jeff Davis did the same things but you cannot bring them up! Quoth the ftD: "Tu quoque! Tu quoque!"

And Jeff Davis did not raise taxes to pay for the war?

If he did, then he was no more a tyrant for doing so then was Lincoln.

Well, first, Lincoln had a Congress to deal with, and with the war over, his power would have been greatly limited. Not a problem with taxes. On that both Lincoln and Congress were in complete agreement: if it moves, tax it.

Well, that is why we have elections now isn't it?

It is called a Republican form of Government, and the people decide the make up of the Government.

If they vote in Republicans who want higher taxes, who are you to complain about it?

The Democratic Party was as competetive as the Republican Party and had every fair chance to win elections also.

Second, since he was murdered, we will never know what he would have done. His 30 year+ political career in which he never once wavered from his advocacy of higher taxes is more than enough reason to expect that he would've maintained that course.

He had two years as a congressmen and 5 as President, all of them were involved with war issues.

As a Congressman Whig, he had to vote to fund the Democrat's war on Mexico.

Did he have any control of it lasting 6 years after his death? Technically no, but by that same logic FDR cannot be blamed for Social Security at any point later than 1945. But just as FDR fathered Social Security when he could control it, Lincoln fathered the Income Tax.

No, because FDR made Social Security a part of the very fabric of our society, Lincoln put in a tax that was later ended.

Now I trust we have exhausted this very fascinating subject.

3,160 posted on 03/01/2005 10:17:38 PM PST by fortheDeclaration
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