[fortheDeclaration]

Yes, and it was the howls from some of the slave owners that stopped the passage from going into the Declaration. And the point is, THE PASSAGE DID NOT GO INTO THE DECLARATION, nullifying the point that you guys always try to use the Declaration to make: that the Founders wanted slavery dead, dead, dead, and that they wrote the Declaration to reflect that desire. And thanks for the evidence. No, they did not. Period. End of statement. End of argument. You're wrong. Dead wrong. Over and out.

Why, because they compromised?

My, my, how self-righteous those who have never had to face fighting a revolution and building a nation become 200 hundred years after the fact.

The fact is that the Founders were against slavery and did see it as being immoral.

Those quotes you thanked me for, prove that

[Gianni]

The fact is that the Founders were against slavery and did see it as being immoral.

If you're going to keep saying this, then I might as well keep repeating the truth back to you:

The fact is that the founders spewed some lofty rhetoric about how evil slavery was, whilst behind closed doors they busily codified it into the constitution and wrote it into law. After a hard day's 'founding' some went home to rape their slaves and sell their children.

[lentulusgracchus]

My, my, how self-righteous those who have never had to face fighting a revolution and building a nation become 200 hundred years after the fact.

I might say the same thing about you. Okay, I will.

Those quotes you thanked me for, prove that

No, I'm sorry, they don't.