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To: fortheDeclaration; Non-Sequitur; x; M. Espinola; capitan_refugio
Do I need to start pinging your little buddies too? Do you think they enjoy your little tyraids any more than I do? So much that they need to be 'in the loop' here?

What's next from FTD, lecturing me on how the pro-lifers are on the right track thanks to people like Susan Estrich? Ever heard her rail about how horrible abortion is, and how hard it was for her to choose abortion all three times?

There were anti-slavery founders. There were pro-slavery founders. In the end, all of them chose slavery as an acceptable vice to carry, if it meant the new republic could not be forged without it (the same sin you accuse the Confederates of, by the way). However, per FTD, somehow they were so "against slavery" that they went home after a hard day's 'founding' and raped their slaves and sold thier children.

That is my American history. I do not feel the need to go back and clean it up for public viewing. Those who know me understand that I hold the same contempt for thier actions 200 years ago as I do for the abortocrats of today. It is to subsequent generations' benefit as well as their credit that the republic the founders formed overcame the evils they not only tolerated, but instituted. Credit where credit is due, criticism likewise.

2,773 posted on 02/22/2005 10:07:37 AM PST by Gianni
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To: Gianni; Non-Sequitur; capitan_refugio; x; M. Espinola
Do I need to start pinging your little buddies too? Do you think they enjoy your little tyraids any more than I do? So much that they need to be 'in the loop' here? What's next from FTD, lecturing me on how the pro-lifers are on the right track thanks to people like Susan Estrich? Ever heard her rail about how horrible abortion is, and how hard it was for her to choose abortion all three times? There were anti-slavery founders. There were pro-slavery founders. In the end, all of them chose slavery as an acceptable vice to carry, if it meant the new republic could not be forged without it (the same sin you accuse the Confederates of, by the way). However, per FTD, somehow they were so "against slavery" that they went home after a hard day's 'founding' and raped their slaves and sold thier children.

No, you phony.

That was not the same choice that the Confederates faced.

The rejected the idea that slavery was an evil to be ended.

They embraced it as a good to be expanded.

The Confederates became Confederates so they could expand slavery rather then accept the original goal of the Founders, (even the pro-slavery group) that it would one day be ended.

That is my American history. I do not feel the need to go back and clean it up for public viewing. Those who know me understand that I hold the same contempt for thier actions 200 years ago as I do for the abortocrats of today. It is to subsequent generations' benefit as well as their credit that the republic the founders formed overcame the evils they not only tolerated, but instituted. Credit where credit is due, criticism likewise.

And it is a distorted, warped, twisted history.

What you confederates hide behind is the courage of the fighting men who fought and died defending a wicked constitution, one that made slavery an explicit right, signaling out one race in particular to be enslaved.

You do not appeal to history, as noted with your posts with me, you attempt to rewrite it,(i.e. the Founders were not against slavery), to hide the real character of the Confederacy.

2,777 posted on 02/22/2005 12:25:32 PM PST by fortheDeclaration
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