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To: Gianni; capitan_refugio; Non-Sequitur; x
Lincoln did not believe one man had the right to own another, that is the essential principle of the Declaration. Certainly they would have wanted it to state the essentail principle in clear, unmistakable text. So where is it?

What, you cannot read English?

The reason the Declaration was written to the world, was to state the case of why the colonies felt they had a right, nay a duty to revolt.

That no one had a right to rule over another man without their consent?

Because all men were created equal endowed with their creator with unalienable rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

The rest of the Declaration lays out how those rights were abused by the British.

Or will this fall into the dustbin of questions directly brought on by comments you've made that fall into the, "I can't answer it" category?

It might be that I did not see your question.

I know how you neo-confederates think you are the center of the universe, hence your love of slavery in the South.

This is not the only thread I am on and I am pinged by other people.

Which men that you classify as "founders" were members of the second continental congress, and what were their votes on the Northwest Ordinance?

I would classify every man that was in the first and second congress as Founders.

As for your question on the Northwest Ordinance, who voted for what is irrelevant since it passed

Now, what has this to do with the fact (stated by Stephens himself) that the Founders intended for slavery to be ended and believed the words of the Declaration of Independence, that all men were equal in the eyes of God?

Plan to do some gnat straining?

2,708 posted on 02/18/2005 3:44:56 AM PST by fortheDeclaration
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To: fortheDeclaration
That no one had a right to rule over another man without their consent?

So it is you contention that the Founders were just amazing hypocrites. It would seem (to me) that returning to their homes to be waited on by slaves on a daily basis after penning lofty rhetoric about how no man had the right to rule them would pretty much discount statements they made concerning how, in principle, they were opposed to slavery. In practice they were clearly not.

To project our more enlightened view of the Declaration into their time is sick revisionism. Demanding that slavery was a stain on the character of the South while whitewashing the sins of our Nation as a whole. Those slaveowners were bad because of it, but my slaveowners were good in spite of it.

It might be that I did not see your question.

I've posted it probably 5 times since you've said that the "Founders" passed the NWO as a start to the end of slavery.

I would classify every man that was in the first and second congress as Founders.

You were doing better at backpedalling and ignoring the question altogether.

2,709 posted on 02/18/2005 4:20:50 AM PST by Gianni
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