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To: shubi
Ok, I couldn't get that, but I've ordered a copy of "How do we know there is a God?" by the same author.

I have read a book that purported to offer similar evidence before (sorry, a while ago so I cannot cite references) and my recollection is that I found a lot of "conclusion presuming" going on, and that the arguments would reinforce pre-existing beliefs but were unconvincing to me as a non-believer. I am not assuming that Warwick will be more of the same however (witness I am shelling out hard-earned for it).

Locke's and Paley's arguments for "God as designer" were powerful ones before the 19th century of course.

952 posted on 12/23/2004 4:08:07 AM PST by Thatcherite (Conservative and Biblical Literalist are not synonymous)
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To: Thatcherite

I think that in arguing for God there are some things that you must accept for the sake of argument.

Any god whose existence does not rely on faith is not much of a god.

Remember, the title of the book I suggested was about faith not proving the existence of God, per se.

Try Alibris for a used copy of the Faith book. www.alibris.com


953 posted on 12/23/2004 4:18:16 AM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: Thatcherite

"Locke's and Paley's arguments for "God as designer" were powerful ones before the 19th century of course."

To me, having God design everything one at a time, as the creationists insist He must have done, limits God to being somewhat of a retard.

If He created everything in one big bang and all the systems start working, I think that is pretty good. ;-)


954 posted on 12/23/2004 4:20:19 AM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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