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To: Thatcherite
I will leave it as an exercise for you to ponder why the total lack of modern forms in the fossil record (below the very uppermost strata) is a problem for flood geology and a vindication for the ToE. Not that flood geology needs any more problems as it predicts nothing, is inconsistent with observed reality in too many ways to enumerate quickly, and would require numerous miracles to even come close to working.

First of all, Genesis is older than ToE. The burden of proof rests with ToE. Secondly, what does ToE predict? All ToE does is try to cram observations into a coherent body. Coherency is not proof.

804 posted on 12/21/2004 10:53:29 AM PST by derheimwill (Love is a person, not an emotion.)
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To: derheimwill
I will leave it as an exercise for you to ponder why the total lack of modern forms in the fossil record (below the very uppermost strata) is a problem for flood geology and a vindication for the ToE. Not that flood geology needs any more problems as it predicts nothing, is inconsistent with observed reality in too many ways to enumerate quickly, and would require numerous miracles to even come close to working.

First of all, Genesis is older than ToE. The burden of proof rests with ToE. Secondly, what does ToE predict? All ToE does is try to cram observations into a coherent body. Coherency is not proof.

Lack of attempt to answer my question noted. Comments to your fresh comments interspersed following:

First of all, Genesis is older than ToE. The burden of proof rests with ToE.

Age of theories is irrelevant when assessing how well they correspond with observed reality.

Secondly, what does ToE predict?

ToE makes numerous succesful predictions. One was that marsupial fossils would be found in Antarctica. Do you know how geologists and biologists were able to predict this?

All ToE does is try to cram observations into a coherent body. Coherency is not proof.

No scientific theory is ever proven. Proof is for geometry. All any scientific theory does is combine observations into a coherent body, from which predictions are made and falsifications attempted. ToE makes numerous succesful predictions and has survived all attempts at falsification. No scientific theory can have any higher accolade than being consistend with observed data.

814 posted on 12/21/2004 11:12:31 AM PST by Thatcherite (Conservative and Biblical Literalist are not synonymous)
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To: derheimwill

I will leave it as an exercise for you to ponder why the total lack of modern forms in the fossil record (below the very uppermost strata) is a problem for flood geology and a vindication for the ToE. Not that flood geology needs any more problems as it predicts nothing, is inconsistent with observed reality in too many ways to enumerate quickly, and would require numerous miracles to even come close to working.
First of all, Genesis is older than ToE. The burden of proof rests with ToE.

B: Genesis is not a scientific theory.


Secondly, what does ToE predict?

B: For starters, It predicted humans evolved from the higher primates. THis prediction, initally made by Darwin, has been borne out in a plethora of transitional forms.


827 posted on 12/21/2004 11:35:17 AM PST by bigdakine
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