[shubi]

"because it is not part of evolutionary theory, abiogenesis also is not considered in this "

The above is from the article Thatcherite cited. All arguments about the ToE not supporting Creation are just empty, moot and silly. As I have repeatedly stated, Creation is not part of the ToE. Thus, to say that scientists cannot believe in Creation or that Christians can't find the fact of common descent and the ToE compelling is just totally wrong.

[Thatcherite]

Apologies if you find my use of the word "creationist" offensive. I use it as a blanket term for those who deny science in order to believe in their religion. I am not referring to everybody who believes in divine creation (as I hope my posts make clear)

I managed to find the Augustinian quote that I referred to earlier.

"Often a non-Christian knows something about the earth, the heavens, and the other parts of the world, about the motions and orbits of the stars and even their sizes and distances,... and this knowledge he holds with certainty from reason and experience. It is thus offensive and disgraceful for an unbeliever to hear a Christian talk nonsense about such things, claiming that what he is saying is based in Scripture. We should do all that we can to avoid such an embarrassing situation, lest the unbeliever see only ignorance in the Christian and laugh to scorn."

-- St. Augustine, "De Genesi ad litteram libri duodecim" (The Literal Meaning of Genesis)