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To: conservative_crusader

Now, we are getting somewhere. Biological evolution is not a belief. It is a rational decision based on mountains of intertwining evidence that leads any honest person to see it as "scientific fact". It is reality.

Unless you can falsify the TOE, you cannot substitute the literal Bible interpretation or put a creator in the mix that is not in the TOE to begin with. So, your task is to falsify the biological theory of evolution. So far, your attempts have been largely philosophical, attacks on cosmology and physics. While these subjects have confirmed parts of the TOE, they are not in the TOE themselves.

No one has been able to falsify the TOE, since its inception. They have been able to get the TOE modified since Darwin proposed it, because that is how science works. As we learn more, we modify. However, Darwin was essentially correct in the main concept, that life has diverged from some single primary source, probably a unicellular organism.

If you want to say this primary organism was "designed" by God, there is no one to contradict you. However, that is an argument of abiogenesis which is not in the TOE. You also run the danger that if science discovers that abiogenesis did create the first life form, you are left without a god. This happened when the world was proved round, to those that asserted the Earth was designed flat.


472 posted on 12/09/2004 3:30:59 PM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: shubi
"No one has been able to falsify the TOE, since its inception."

Argumentum Ad Ignorantium. Just because we are ignorant of anyway to disprove TOE, does not make it so. I am not denying TOE, I am merely saying that it is neither absolute, nor neccesarily "scientific fact."


"However, that is an argument of abiogenesis which is not in the TOE. You also run the danger that if science discovers that abiogenesis did create the first life form, you are left without a god."

I'd like you to forgive me, but I'm not sure exactly what abiogenesis is. Please enlighten me. From the context of the sentence, it would seem that you are suggesting that the original organism (if there was one) spontaneously generated. But then again I don't know what it is.
492 posted on 12/09/2004 8:09:17 PM PST by conservative_crusader (Annuit Coeptis (He has smiled on our undertaking))
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