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To: shubi
My assertion is that sin came into the earth through one man, therefor it could be removed by ONE man. As a "Dr. of Ministry"? don't you even understand the premise of original sin? God does not disobey his own principles and laws.

He does not wave a magic wand over each person, over each sin in all minute details. God is scientific and redemption is more like an equation: Sin came into humanity through Adam. Sin can therefor be canceled for the WHOLE human race by one man...Christ. It is a matter of transference and substitution. If God was capricious He could just wave His hand and make all the bad go away.

If it was easy to cleanse us and the universe of sin do you think God would not have found another way than torturing and killing Himself in a human body? It is a very real thing...for anyone who believes, all your evil, every evil thought and act, all your hatred, bitterness, unforgivingness, lust, pride, insecurity goes onto Christ at that moment of time 2,000 years ago. Or you retain it yourself...and that Dr IS Hell.

This pertains to evolution in that if we descended from tribes of apes...then where and who did the original sin? From which line? Why are all sinners? Wouldn't some lines have stayed pure? If sin came from many sources, then Christ would have to address each source, He would have to have been crucified hundreds, even thousands, of times in human history. That did not happen. So evolution as proposed by current pseudoscience did not happen either.

Natural speciation has NEVER been observed...Gypsy Moths not withstanding. Any speciation that science says has taken place, did so by manipulation by man (who in this instance takes the role of the creator), or it is simply a labeling game, or the observation of variability within a species.

Also your statement: "Science never proves anything. The Theory of Evolution explains how life formed after creation of the first life on this planet."

Is in error, evolution, among other things, tries to describe the process whereby inanimate matter became the first living cell. Something that is mathematically impossible by natural forces alone.
45 posted on 12/02/2004 2:22:08 PM PST by Jehu
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To: Jehu

I understand the theological construct of original sin, but I don't think an adapted pagan tale is definitive in understanding it.

I think the original sin IS our animal nature. Then God breathed His spirit into us and made us able to know Him.
Thus, evolution falls right into line with Genesis 1 and the Adam and Eve part tells us about the Spirit, which makes the difference between animals and Man.

The Bible is mostly concerned with spiritual instruction, not science.


46 posted on 12/02/2004 2:44:40 PM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: Jehu

"Also your statement: "Science never proves anything. The Theory of Evolution explains how life formed after creation of the first life on this planet."

Is in error, evolution, among other things, tries to describe the process whereby inanimate matter became the first living cell. Something that is mathematically impossible by natural forces alone."

The Theory of (Biological) Evolution does not contain and never has contained speculation on original life formation. You, like all creationists, are creating a strawman argument.
You and the others have purposely left off the last word of Darwin's "Origin of Species" and substituted a new title "Origin of Life". Then you have gone on to rewrite the rest of Darwin's book with other twists, distortions, misrepresentations and out and out lies.


56 posted on 12/02/2004 7:28:55 PM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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