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To: conservative_crusader

"If you believe in God and turn out to be incorrect, you have lost nothing -- but if you don't believe in God and turn out to be incorrect, you will go to hell. Therefore it is foolish to be an atheist." Blaise Pascal (1623-1662}

Your last post contains Pascal's Wager. Here is an interesting discussion of it:
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/pascal-wager/

You seem to be assuming that anyone who understands biological evolution and finds it convincing (any scientist)is an atheist. This is simply not true. You can hold the tenets of modern science, including the TOE and remain faithful to God; for if God created evolution, denying God's work is the same as denying God. The systems God put in place at the Creation of the universe indirectly created evolution. Thus, God created biological evolution.

There is no need to refute evolution to save your faith, unless your faith has been corrupted by silly science and the cult of creationism. The literalist Bible view requires departure from reality, a somewhat psychotic view of life.


425 posted on 12/09/2004 3:57:14 AM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: shubi; conservative_crusader

Furthermore, if one finds Pascal's wager to be convincing, one must by the same logic also believe in Zeus, Thor, Ra, Huitzilopochtli, the Great Green Arkleseizure, etc. After all, if one wrongly fails to believe in any of these, the consequences may be dire, whereas if one wrongly believes in any of them, there is no consequence.


428 posted on 12/09/2004 5:24:02 AM PST by stremba
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To: shubi
"You seem to be assuming that anyone who understands biological evolution and finds it convincing (any scientist)is an atheist. This is simply not true. You can hold the tenets of modern science, including the TOE and remain faithful to God; for if God created evolution, denying God's work is the same as denying God. The systems God put in place at the Creation of the universe indirectly created evolution. Thus, God created biological evolution."

Negative. I am saying atheists have nothing to gain from a god if one exists. Not that people who believe in evolution. Personally I accept that however the universe was created, is secondary to the need of salvation. It does not matter if the creation was literal or figurative, it happened and must have happened.
429 posted on 12/09/2004 5:45:23 AM PST by conservative_crusader (Annuit Coeptis (He has smiled on our undertaking))
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