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To: shubi

For the atheist, the simple yet difficult scientific phenomena to explain is the difference between the universal Scientific God, entropy, vs. the Earthly natural Scientific God, evolution. Remember entropy, the force behind the big bang and the awesome power of the universe, predicts systems should “evolve” from a state of order to disorder. Evolution, observed on the planet Earth, predicts systems are evolving from a state of disorder to order. If the scientific God is all that is and ever was, it has the same level of confusion and identity as the Democratic Party.


18 posted on 12/01/2004 9:54:39 AM PST by kipita (Rebel – the proletariat response to Aristocracy and Exploitation.)
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To: kipita

What are you smoking?


21 posted on 12/01/2004 2:21:29 PM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: kipita; shubi
Remember entropy, the force behind the big bang and the awesome power of the universe, predicts systems should “evolve” from a state of order to disorder. Evolution, observed on the planet Earth, predicts systems are evolving from a state of disorder to order.

The Second Law of Thermodynamics states that the entropy of a closed system will decrease or remain constant.

The key word is "closed".

If anything can pass into, or out of, a system, we say it is an open system. If only matter can pass into, or out of, a system, but not energy, then we call it a closed system. If neither matter nor energy can pass into, or out of, a system, then we call it an isolated system.

Biological systems are not isolated or closed systems as they depend on the energy from an outside source: .......... Sunlight.

"Order" in biological systems is only made possible by the consumption of energy that is produced at the cost of increasing entropy in the Sun.

For example, truckloads of lumber, cement and hardwear are delivered to a vacant lot you own. Through your muscle power, which comes from your food energy, which comes from photosynthesis, which is made possible by sunlight which is made possible by increasing the entropy of the Sun, you can take that material and build a house.

You arrived at order (a house) from disorder (a pile of building material) by supplying energy.

The Sun is the source of energy input to the Earth's living systems and allows them to evolve, hunt, breed, construct, Freep, etc.

244 posted on 12/05/2004 11:22:13 PM PST by Polybius
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