[Oztrich Boy]

ID makes the claim that in the beginning everything was perfect. When Adam and Eve sinned, it introduce the concept of death into the world and a continual spiral of degradation which is still occurring today.

Truth will out.

Thank you for pointing out that John Calvert is a flimflam man and ID is Biblical Creationism Concealed

[Asfarastheeastisfromthewest...]

See my post 741. I suppose that if one was to take the words intelligent and design in their broader scope, a belief in life on earth being the result of aliens seeding the planting billions of years ago could also be included. If the common understanding of 'ID' also includes that, it is news to me and obviously my comments about 'in the beginning everything was perfect' don't apply. As for John Calvert, I have no insight into his personal beliefs.