To: JeffAtlanta
When I said that I have not heard a scientist who made that claim, I meant in the entire field, not among IDists. And if you question the quality of the scientists in the field I can list you a pretty extensive list of them. Heck, go to your local book store and you will see volumes of books written by those who suggest ID.
Also, if you can tell me the difference in life and in species, you know more about the subject than I--because I don't think there is a difference in the two. Without species there is no life, without life there is no species. The two are hand in hand.
Are you trying to tell me that evolution says nothing on the subject of the very first species coming to life? Are you trying to say that Darwin does not theorize on how life began or begins?
If you are, I suggest you go back and re-read his books.
619 posted on
11/29/2004 5:19:39 PM PST by
cainin04
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To: cainin04
Are you trying to tell me that evolution says nothing on the subject of the very first species coming to life? Are you trying to say that Darwin does not theorize on how life began or begins? If you are, I suggest you go back and re-read his books. Clearly, despite the tone of your post, you've never read Darwin. Permit me to assist you. Here is the last chapter of Origin of Species. Darwin mentions the origin of life in the last sentence of the last paragraph. That's all there is. Now you know.
623 posted on
11/29/2004 5:36:44 PM PST by
PatrickHenry
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To: cainin04
Are you trying to tell me that evolution says nothing on the subject of the very first species coming to life? Are you trying to say that Darwin does not theorize on how life began or begins?
The very first life form would be the very first species. The theory of evolution does not cover how the very first life form came into existence, and this has been the case since Darwin wrote Origin of the Species. Darwin said that the process of evolution began once the first life forms came into existence, speculating (but not including as part of the theory itself) that it was the work of a Creator.
The method by which the first life form came into existence is irrelevant to the theory of evolution. It could have been natural processes causing various molecules to come together in the right formation, it could have been aliens seeding the earth, it could have been time-travelling humans planting the seeds of their own existence or it could have been a divine entity zap-poofing the first life forms into being, or it could have been something else entirely, and the theory of evolution would not be affected by one bit.
624 posted on
11/29/2004 5:38:48 PM PST by
Dimensio
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To: cainin04
You may be confusing the theory of evolution with the ideas that Darwin had. Darwin had ideas that go beyond evolution, including speculations on the origin of life. Modern evolutionary theory, however, does not deal with the origin of life. (BTW, what makes you think the modern theory of evolution is absolutely identical to what Darwin wrote 150 years ago? Science doesn't work that way. Modifications are made to a theory as new evidence is found.)
746 posted on
11/30/2004 6:19:12 AM PST by
stremba
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