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To: narby

Narby, just for the record, I wouldn't call it scientific to say that God created the universe and all life within it. That would be outside the realm of human knowledge and science, and a matter of faith.

However, I think proponents of the theory of evolution are often so dogmatic about their theory because it's viewed as a way to shove God out of public discourse. If evolution is treated as anything other than concrete fact, they feel it opens intellectual discourse to the possibility of God. This leads them to defend evolution in a way that is downright fanatical. They treat it as concrete fact, when it is really just a theory. And as a theory, it is sufficiently weak in terms of evidence and logic that its proponents really should be quite humble in putting it forward, rather than as arrogant as they often are.


596 posted on 11/29/2004 4:09:10 PM PST by puroresu
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To: puroresu
I think proponents of the theory of evolution are often so dogmatic about their theory because it's viewed as a way to shove God out of public discourse.

I disagree completly. I do not think that the science profession considers the subject of God, until Creationists show up and demand to teach something completly different to what science has discovered. And Creationists do this, not through the system of science itself, by discovering contrary evidence, but through political force.

If scientists came into a church and demanded to teach something that was counter to church doctrine, church officials would rightly object to their utmost ability just on the principle of the thing.

Same with science.

If Creationists want to teach their subject as part of the religion studies, fine. Just don't try to push aside genuine science to teach it and expect science to just roll over.

This is the issue, and it isn't science that needs to back off. It's Creationists that need to put their subject in the proper classroom.

605 posted on 11/29/2004 4:26:52 PM PST by narby
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