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To: EternalVigilance

I'm not downplaying anything; I'm stating the facts.

One has to wonder why, in spite of the facts from credibile sources, you wish to pretend those numbers don't exist.

And one wonder if, since the Hispanics voted in greater numbers than Evangelicals did, you'll be quite so willing when the Hispanics "come calling" with their demands.


36 posted on 11/15/2004 1:28:13 PM PST by Howlin (I love the smell of mandate in the morning.)
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To: Howlin

Well, if we don't matter then, what are y'all so excited about?


47 posted on 11/15/2004 1:31:58 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: Howlin
And one wonder if, since the Hispanics voted in greater numbers than Evangelicals did, you'll be quite so willing when the Hispanics "come calling" with their demands.

Any American can make any 'demand' they want.

Doesn't necessarily mean anyone is going to listen.

But I guarantee to you that Republican Senators are listening to pro-lifers right now.

I think the uprising against Specter, who has a long history of hostility to the core values of our Party, is on its way to dwarfing anything Washington has ever seen.

This isn't over yet. I'd recommend you learn some breathing exercises or something if you're this worked up against the vocal prolifers already...

59 posted on 11/15/2004 1:36:51 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: Howlin
First of all, for all that you're very attached to this Pew poll, we all learned how valuable polls really are a few days ago, when exit polls were taken the day of the election. I have to view this poll with a big shaker full of salt.

re: And one wonder if, since the Hispanics voted in greater numbers than Evangelicals did, you'll be quite so willing when the Hispanics "come calling" with their demands)))

Actually, why not? If they vote, if they have supported us, if they have concerns, why not listen? And, don't assume that Hispanics are Catholic. Huge numbers of them are evangelical. Who owns the table, and who cuts the pie? Not Michael Barone, not me, not you.

Since the election, I've watched some of the "elites" and "intellectuals" among conservatives suddenly rush to discount the validity of the evangelical vote. Brooks, Krauthammer to name two. Forgive me if I suspect that they'd just like to cut conservative Christians out of the Republican party because...because...well, they're just plain icky. Southern and a little red-necky. The poster that expressed resentment that he feels like he's being told, "Now that you've voted, shut up, because you don't exist, because I don't want to have to rub elbows with you"-- I know exactly what he's talking about.

As for Dobson, I once worked for the guy. I don't like him. He's cold-blooded and a plain old sexist. I don't particularly like him attempting to speak for evangelicals, when he's really an entrepeneur and ought to be speaking for entreneurs. But I do get my back up when he's being told to shut up "because Evangelicals didn't make all that much of a difference, anyway."

Yes, we did.

162 posted on 11/15/2004 3:07:55 PM PST by Mamzelle (Nov 3--Psalm One...Blessed is the man...!)
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