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To: GOPcapitalist; capitan_refugio
Hey GOP how come the Confederate Constitution has that their intention was to form a permanent federal government? It is the intention of any government to perpetuate itself, thus a true libertarian will always recognize that the state - no matter what state it is - is irrepairably separated from the good. That it may be tolerated as an existing evil is a necessary act of pragmatism, but it should never be embraced or worshipped or assigned a status of perpetual goodness. That is why I support the act of secession that the confederacy took even though I am no big fan of the confederate's national government or any government for that matter.

Well, might you tell me what great 'evil' the Federal gov't was responsible for?

Thus, the Confederate Constitution was just a lot of empty noise also, that could have been broke up at the whim of any one state when they did not get their way!

Well, since you are not in favor of any gov't at all, that would explain your lack of concern for the destruction of the United States.

Thank you for finally revealing what you stand for, anarchy.

974 posted on 11/24/2004 12:37:16 AM PST by fortheDeclaration
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To: fortheDeclaration
Well, might you tell me what great 'evil' the Federal gov't was responsible for?

The deprivation of income earned by others (taxes) and the deprivation of the right to government by consent (coercive obedience to the union).

Thus, the Confederate Constitution was just a lot of empty noise also, that could have been broke up at the whim of any one state when they did not get their way!

If that one state decided to secede from it, pretty much, though it would presumably still apply in states that did not desire to secede from it. The entire notion is built upon a voluntary act of ascession to the government.

Well, since you are not in favor of any gov't at all,

I did not say I favor no government at all. I simply said that government itself is an institution that is inherently removed from the good, which is the classical definition of sinfulness. That some governments are more evil than others is certain, and thus the pragmatist will tolerate the existence of a lesser evil without embracing it as a positive good that it is not or worshipping at its false and idolatrous altar. Insofar as the United States meets this end when compared to, say, the alternative of mohammedan theocracy or soviet style communism, then I openly prefer the continuance of the United States by far. But that does not mean I worship the United States as some sort of secular and worldly deity.

977 posted on 11/24/2004 12:43:47 AM PST by GOPcapitalist ("Marxism finds it easy to ally with Islamic zealotism" - Ludwig von Mises)
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