Hey Capitan, isn't that how the South ended up-on her knees begging for mercy?
If you have any intellectual honesty the company you are presently keeping would concern you greatly. Capitan has committed enough fraud on threads such as this one to get him kicked out of even a bottom tier community college a dozen times over. I'm not talking about simple differences of opinion either, which I can and do recognize that both he and you have - i'm talking about acts of fraud. In our previous discussion over the Bollman case he posted a lengthy excerpt from the dissent and attempted to pass it off as the majority ruling. A few days later he did the exact same thing with Hamdi, and that after being thoroughly exposed for his previous fraud. Not long after that he was doing it with another case. And another. I pinged NC, who has copies of the links if you desire to see it all for yourself.
I mention this because you appear relatively new to threads of this nature and, despite uncalled for comments such as the above, you seem to have a willingness to contribute to the discussion. That said, you are also drifting dangerously close to the path chosen by El Capitan, who has no interest in any honest or substantive discussion (as most recently evidenced by his downright incorrigible refusal to acknowledge the commonly accepted fact that Virginia "totally dissolved" its ties with the british crown in June of 1776) and only posts here for the purpose of flaming, insulting, and obstructing any discussion that would otherwise take place.