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To: GOPcapitalist; capitan_refugio
Jackson never made idle threats, and Calhoun knew it. That's very far from the truth. Find yourself any good biography of Jackson and look back to his days in Tennessee. Particularly look at a case involving the death of Peyton Anderson. Anderson, Jackson's best friend, was shot in an altercation after he tried to stab somebody and Jackson spent the next several months making all sorts of blustery threats on how he was going to ensure everybody he percieved to have wronged Anderson was going to hang. The legendary Felix Grundy put a stop to it all and Jackson was left with nothing more than blustery threats to his name.

LOL!

That is pretty pathetic!

But secession-that Old Hickory would not concede. That had nothing to do with states'rights. "In my opinion' he responded, " the admission of the right of secession is a virtual dissolution of the union." To insist that secession is a reserved right as Macon did, is to insist that each state reserved the right to put and end to the Government" whenever it wishes. " I hold that the states expressly gave up the right to secede...when the present Constitution was adopted to establish 'a more perfect union' The only right of secession is the right of revolution"(33)

Speaking of the potential secession of South Carolina,

Just let me know the moment an armed force is illegally assembled, Jackson responded: I will then "issue my proclamation warning them to disperse' and if they refuse, 'I will forthwith call into the field such a force as will overawe resistance, put treason and rebellion down without blood and arrest and hand over to the judiciary for trial and punishment, the leaders and exciters and promoters of this rebellion and treason'....Jackson, of course, had no difficulty in locating the cause of the crises, He regarded the 'modern' doctrines of secession and nullification as the 'mad theories' of a few demagogues-in particular "Mr. John C. Calhoun"....Once South Carolina made good her threat to take action after February 1, Federal soldiers would march....Everyone seemed to realize that with Jackson in the White House, 'there is but one way of seperating or dissolving the union, and that ws 'by war." In that event 'somebody may get hanged adn some killed"
(Andrew Jackson, and the course of American Democracy, Robert V.Remini, V.3, p.34-36)

Now as for Jackson's determination, Remini wrote,

He was one of those extraordinary men who flourish with adversity. The more he was opposed the more determined he became. A strong, obstinate streak surged within him whenever his situation became hopeless (Remini, Vol.1.p.203)

Now, I consider Remini the definitive work on Jackson.

If you know another, one that contradicts Remini's work, please let me know.

Your pompus reply is typical of a southerner living in the world of delusion and mythology.

889 posted on 11/23/2004 12:51:56 PM PST by fortheDeclaration
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To: fortheDeclaration
Don't you remember? GOPc doesn't use citations because they are a lower form of debate.

(that way he can just "opine" to his heart's content)

901 posted on 11/23/2004 3:22:51 PM PST by capitan_refugio
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