[nolu chan]

[jsuati #408] There is nothing to get. There was never any right for any man to hold others in bondage no matter what the laws might say about it.

What a marvelous theory. Let us see how it works in practice.

There is nothing to get. There was never any right for any woman to have an abortion, no matter what the laws might say about it. As I am sure you are opposed to infanticide, and surely you could not just sit idly by and watch 40 million innocent children be murdered, do you march on abortion clinics and close them down, rise up in revolt against the abortion clinics, or do you just sit and spew crap about that issue as well.

[jsuati #408] If one believes, like I do, that rights are from God....

• Who gets to decide what rights God has given?
• Is that decided by Protestants, Catholics, Jews, Wiccans, #3SecretSource or what?
• Do we each make up our own mind and ignore the laws and the courts?
• What "rights" does man have, and in what countries are they fully enjoyed?
• Does the infant, fully delivered except for his head, have the "right" to life, liberty, and not having his brains sucked out with a vacuum device?
• Do athiests have "rights?"

[lentulusgracchus]

What a marvelous theory. Let us see how it works in practice.

Good idea. I haven't pursued it, but it would seem to be productive of instructive parallels to e.g. Marxism in Russia.

I'm more fascinated by the temper tantrum over our actually having engaged his presentation of factual information with other facts, to challenge his Lincolnian, proto-Marxian synthesis.